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Créé par: Islesforthecup
Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 15 nov. 2020
Publié: 16 nov. 2020
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Dont beat up on subban could be someone else. Needed a solid backup just picked him.
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    1. Bellows, Kieffer [Droits de RFA]
    2. Dal Colle, Michael [Droits de RFA]
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        Leddy
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        16 nov. 2020 à 0 h 21
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        I don't see a rebuilding Chicago team trading what is likely a top 10 pick for a 30 year old forward.
        16 nov. 2020 à 0 h 25
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        Quoting: thesaadfather
        I don't see a rebuilding Chicago team trading what is likely a top 10 pick for a 30 year old forward.


        That could go anywhere not necessarily chicago but its most probably not going to be a top 10 pick.
        16 nov. 2020 à 0 h 43
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        Varlamov isn’t a cap dump.

        Why are you giving away Aho for a 5th?
        16 nov. 2020 à 0 h 49
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        Quoting: Isles777
        Varlamov isn’t a cap dump.

        Why are you giving away Aho for a 5th?


        Seattle isnt taking a 34 year old goalie with 2 years left at 5mil. As for aho get what you can for him. Would rather get too little and not have everyone rip me for getting an extra seventh lol. Wanted to keep discussion on the main parts. (failed already lol)
        16 nov. 2020 à 0 h 52
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        Quoting: Islesforthecup
        Seattle isnt taking a 34 year old goalie with 2 years left at 5mil. As for aho get what you can for him. Would rather get too little and not have everyone rip me for getting an extra seventh lol. Wanted to keep discussion on the main parts. (failed already lol)


        Varlamov was the 10th ranked goalie in the NHL this past season - the trotz system wasn’t much of a factor because he was playing 5 1/2 D and the isles allowed many high danger shots. They might have to retain a bit , but they won’t have to give up a prospect like wilde.

        Aho should be apart of the isles plans. He’s arguably their best D prospect right now (I don’t consider Dobson a prospect)
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        16 nov. 2020 à 0 h 56
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        Quoting: Isles777
        Varlamov was the 10th ranked goalie in the NHL this past season - the trotz system wasn’t much of a factor because he was playing 5 1/2 D and the isles allowed many high danger shots. They might have to retain a bit , but they won’t have to give up a prospect like wilde.

        Aho should be apart of the isles plans. He’s arguably their best D prospect right now (I don’t consider Dobson a prospect)


        Every year varlys gonna get worse. And during the regular season they were barely in a playoff spot. It was only once pelech came back and the trotz system really kicked in that he startef playing well. Under no circumstances should we retain any salary from anyone we dont have the space. In terms of aho he might be the best right now but wilde and bolduc both have higher ceilings. I kept him around till those guys are ready.
        16 nov. 2020 à 1 h 3
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        Every year varlys gonna get worse. Under no circumstances should we retain any salary from anyone we dont have the space. In terms of aho he might be the best right now but wilde and bolduc both have higher ceilings. I kept him around till those guys are ready.


        Teams get desperate for starting caliber goalies - and varlamov projects to play at that level for the remainder of his contract. The isles can either A. Retain 1 mill and get a 6th rd pick or B. Buy him out (saves 4.4 mill in year 1, 2.4 mill in year 2) .

        I think Aho will be better than bolduc and wilde is a RHD. Aho has the most translatable skill which is hockey sense. Bolduc and wilde have questionable hockey IQ
        16 nov. 2020 à 1 h 9
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        Teams get desperate for starting caliber goalies - and varlamov projects to play at that level for the remainder of his contract. The isles can either A. Retain 1 mill and get a 6th rd pick or B. Buy him out (saves 4.4 mill in year 1, 2.4 mill in year 2) .

        I think Aho will be definitely be better than bolduc and wilde is a RHD. Aho has the most translatable skill which is hockey sense. Bolduc and wilde have questionable hockey IQ


        Its the expansion draft and hes the pick because he has a full no trade. In terms of wilde and bolduc both have a higher ceiling than aho. Aho is more nhl ready but a lower ceiling significantly. Do either of wilde or bolduc flop maybe hopefully not. Coulg it happen yeah. But im going with how theyre projected to become and right now both or them are projected to be a lot better than aho.
        16 nov. 2020 à 1 h 43
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        Its the expansion draft and hes the pick because he has a full no trade. In terms of wilde and bolduc both have a higher ceiling than aho. Aho is more nhl ready but a lower ceiling significantly. Do either of wilde or bolduc flop maybe hopefully not. Coulg it happen yeah. But im going with how theyre projected to become and right now both or them are projected to be a lot better than aho.


        Aho is projected to be a 2nd pairing defenseman who's biggest strength is his ability to move the puck and run a PP. . Bolduc is not projected to have a good offensive impact in the NHL and hes not projected to be better than Aho. Comparing Aho and wilde is irrelevant because they play opposite sides.
        16 nov. 2020 à 4 h 0
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        Aho is projected to be a 2nd pairing defenseman who's biggest strength is his ability to move the puck and run a PP. . Bolduc is not projected to have a good offensive impact in the NHL and hes not projected to be better than Aho. Comparing Aho and wilde is irrelevant because they play opposite sides.


        Ok forget i said anything about wilde. Right now aho isnt projected to be a 2nd pair d man who runs the pp. Thats projecting aho to become devon toews minus toews potential. Not even close. As for bolducs offense at that point he will be playing the second pair with dobson who will provide the offense. We know trotz likes 1 od and 1 dd on every pair.

        Psi. Od is for offensive defenseman not overdose (ill let bellows handle that one lol)
        16 nov. 2020 à 4 h 12
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        Ok forget i said anything about wilde. Right now aho isnt projected to be a 2nd pair d man who runs the pp. Thats projecting aho to become devon toews minus toews potential. Not even close. As for bolducs offense at that point he will be playing the second pair with dobson who will provide the offense. We know trotz likes 1 od and 1 dd on every pair.

        Psi. Od is for offensive defenseman not overdose (ill let bellows handle that one lol)


        Toews provided top pairing value. That was an awful trade by Lou.

        Is it your opinion based on seeing Aho play? Because multiple scouting platforms project him as a two way Top 4 D. He’s also good defensively

        You can’t teach hockey sense. . Bolduc has low hockey IQ which will prevent him from being anything more than a 3rd pairing D. If he had good hockey sense he would have been a 1st rd pick. He’s an all tools no toolbox player
        16 nov. 2020 à 4 h 14
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        Ok forget i said anything about wilde. Right now aho isnt projected to be a 2nd pair d man who runs the pp. Thats projecting aho to become devon toews minus toews potential. Not even close. As for bolducs offense at that point he will be playing the second pair with dobson who will provide the offense. We know trotz likes 1 od and 1 dd on every pair.

        Psi. Od is for offensive defenseman not overdose (ill let bellows handle that one lol)


        Aho is the 1st isles prospect to make the AHL all star game 3 years in a row. He produces on an awful Bridgeport team. He’s too good for the AHL
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        Toews provided top pairing value. That was an awful trade by Lou.

        Is it your opinion based on seeing Aho play? Because multiple scouting platforms project him as a two way Top 4 D. He’s also good defensively

        You can’t teach hockey sense. . Bolduc has low hockey IQ which will prevent him from being anything more than a 3rd pairing D. If he had good hockey sense he would have been a 1st rd pick. He’s an all tools no toolbox player


        Not so bad of a trade but i for sure wouldve dealt leddy instead. You couldve gotten a 2+ at that point for leddy.
        16 nov. 2020 à 5 h 14
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        Aho is the 1st isles prospect to make the AHL all star game 3 years in a row. He produces on an awful Bridgeport team. He’s too good for the AHL


        First of all just because you play well in the ahl doesnt mean your game will translate to the nhl. Second ahos already 24. Time is running out quickly on his development stage. At best he becomes a third pair defenseman.
        16 nov. 2020 à 10 h 17
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        First of all just because you play well in the ahl doesnt mean your game will translate to the nhl. Second ahos already 24. Time is running out quickly on his development stage. At best he becomes a third pair defenseman.


        He has a translatable skill set. During Ahos 22 games in 2017-18 he was the isles best defensive defenseman and he was great on the PP. He has improved every year since he’s come to NA and scouts said he’s been nhl ready for 2 years now. How is it his fault that Lou/trotz are terrible at handling prospects?
        16 nov. 2020 à 11 h 30
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        He has a translatable skill set. During Ahos 22 games in 2017-18 he was the isles best defensive defenseman and he was great on the PP. He has improved every year since he’s come to NA and scouts said he’s been nhl ready for 2 years now. How is it his fault that Lou/trotz are terrible at handling prospects?


        Dont bash lou with prospects. 1 its trotzs decision. 2 think 2018 draft a thing of beauty. Very skeptical of aho but we will probably see this season how it works out. However much playing time he gets with everyone healthy, he for sure cracks number 7 and nhl roster.
        16 nov. 2020 à 11 h 32
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        Dont bash lou with prospects. 1 its trotzs decision. 2 think 2018 draft a thing of beauty. Very skeptical of aho but we will probably see this season how it works out. However much playing time he gets with everyone healthy, he for sure cracks number 7 and nhl roster.


        You’re right, it is more on trotz - but Lou doesn’t have a great track record with prospects.

        What more does Aho have to do to be given a shot? The same thing you’re saying about Aho was said about toews when he was buried in the AHL for years
        16 nov. 2020 à 16 h 11
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        You’re right, it is more on trotz - but Lou doesn’t have a great track record with prospects.

        What more does Aho have to do to be given a shot? The same thing you’re saying about Aho was said about toews when he was buried in the AHL for years


        He will get his shot in a way but when youre win now like the isles you dont want to take chances. The only reason youll have forwards like that is because you need cheap players and you already have defenseman.
        16 nov. 2020 à 16 h 15
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        He will get his shot in a way but when youre win now like the isles you dont want to take chances. The only reason youll have forwards like that is because you need cheap players and you already have defenseman.


        Guys like boychuk and kuhnhackl were costing them games this season. Experience does not mean much if the players suck.

        Win now teams continue to insert youth into the lineup. That’s not a good argument.
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        Guys like boychuk and kuhnhackl were costing them games this season. Experience does not mean much if the players suck.

        Win now teams continue to insert youth into the lineup. That’s not a good argument.


        Pelech,pulock
        Leddy,mayfield
        Greene,dobson
        Who is aho in instead of?
        16 nov. 2020 à 16 h 45
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        Quoting: Islesforthecup
        Pelech,pulock
        Leddy,mayfield
        Greene,dobson
        Who is aho in instead of?


        Aho should play over the 40 year old Greene, but it will take an injury for him to get in the lineup
        16 nov. 2020 à 16 h 51
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        Aho should play over the 40 year old Greene, but it will take an injury for him to get in the lineup


        Not after the way he played in the playoffs no he shouldnt. Plus ideally you want a veteran playing with dobson his first year, and a 38 year old has that experience.
        16 nov. 2020 à 16 h 56
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        Not after the way he played in the playoffs no he shouldnt. Plus ideally you want a veteran playing with dobson his first year, and a 38 year old has that experience.


        Greene had some good moments , but he couldn’t keep up with a faster team like TB. Dobson carried boychuk, he doesn’t need to be mentored for another year. He proved he is above average offensively and defensively.

        Leddy doesn’t generate offense and he’s a liability defensively. Mayfield is a pylon.

        The best pairings with the personnel they have

        Pelech-pulock
        Leddy-Dobson
        Aho-mayfield
        16 nov. 2020 à 17 h 2
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        Quoting: Isles777
        Greene had some good moments , but he couldn’t keep up with a faster team like TB. Dobson carried boychuk, he doesn’t need to be mentored for another year. He proved he is above average offensively and defensively.

        Leddy doesn’t generate offense and he’s a liability defensively. Mayfield is a pylon.

        The best pairings with the personnel they have

        Pelech-pulock
        Leddy-Dobson
        Aho-mayfield


        Dont know what you mean dobson carried boychuck, johnny b only played 2 games. Leddy was playing 3rd pair minutes and decreased pp time. Now that toews is gone i think he does a lot better. Also remember lee had 2 ppg total this season and eberle didnt produce even close to his usual either so look for that to pick up as well. Its not just the defensemen.
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        Quoting: Islesforthecup
        Dont know what you mean dobson carried boychuck, johnny b only played 2 games. Leddy was playing 3rd pair minutes and decreased pp time. Now that toews is gone i think he does a lot better. Also remember lee had 2 ppg total this season and eberle didnt produce even close to his usual either so look for that to pick up as well. Its not just the defensemen.


        Boychuk was one of the worst defenseman in the league this year, but because of Dobson that pairing was able to have a positive impact.

        Leddy will only succeed if he’s paired with Dobson. He needs to play with a two way defenseman, not a stay at home D like mayfield. Leddy has also been one of the worst PP QB over the last two seasons, he should not get any PP time.

        Lee will have a bounce back , i thought eberle had a great season
         
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