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Top 20 centres as ranked by NHL data scientist

Créé par: Pens3lieve
Date de création initiale: mai 29, 2020
Publié: 12 nov 2020 à 13 h 10
Équipe: 2019-20 Équipe du client
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@FauxCentre
Data scientist.

His rankings.

Some really good in-depth analysis on all aspects of play effectiveness.

these are not my rankings at all, but it's interesting to see an all around analysis of a players game... instead of just scoring races and stuff.
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20999 999 999 $143 262 999 $0 $3 432 500 $856 737 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
EDM
McDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 7
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
6 300 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
8 500 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 6
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
FLA
Barkov, Aleksander
5 900 000 $
C
UFA - 3
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
NYI
Barzal, Mathew
863 333 $
C
RFA - 1
VAN
Pettersson, Elias
925 000 $
C
RFA - 2
TBL
Point, Brayden
6 750 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
PHI
Couturier, Sean
4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 3
WSH
Bäckström, Nicklas
6 700 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 1
STL
O'Reilly, Ryan
7 500 000 $
C
UFA - 4
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
728 333 $
C
RFA - 1
BOS
Bergeron, Patrice
6 875 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
CAR
Aho, Sebastian
8 454 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
LAK
Kopitar, Anze
10 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
DET
Larkin, Dylan
6 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
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12 nov 2020 à 13 h 12
#1
HabsFan9
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Malkin above MacKinnon???
12 nov 2020 à 13 h 14
#2
mhockey91
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Malkin still gets that analytic love!
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12 nov 2020 à 13 h 15
#3
mhockey91
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Quoting: HabsFan9
Malkin above MacKinnon???


Their PPG was very similar. Had Malkin not got injured, he would’ve been a hart nominee
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12 nov 2020 à 13 h 23
#4
Pens3lieve
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Quoting: mhockey91
Their PPG was very similar. Had Malkin not got injured, he would’ve been a hart nominee


He should have been for sure.
IDK if mr. 101 would have been lol
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12 nov 2020 à 13 h 26
#5
MelonVK
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I'm a big proponent of data analytics in sports. This is almost entirely useless without any write-up, methodology or anything. Top 20C based on what? *Effectiveness* means nothing, and "data scientist" or "analytics" as blanket statements are equally useless.
12 nov 2020 à 13 h 51
#6
Lyle_Bubas
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i feel like a combination of being overshadowed by Sid and being injury prone has completely made Malkin like, so underrated

the guy was third in points/60 this year, 5th in primary assists/60 and 2nd in secondary assists/60.

like, he's legit on pace to be a top 10 player every year and yet I personally never ever ever even hear him being discussed

even over the last 4 years, 7th in goals/60, sixth in primary assists/60, 4th in secondary assists/60, SECOND IN points/60

problem is, he's only played in at least 70 games once since 2011-2012

poor malkin :'(
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12 nov 2020 à 14 h 06
#7
CD282
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Did your data scientist guy notice that Pettersson actually played LW all season? Apparently not...
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12 nov 2020 à 17 h 32
#8
Pens3lieve
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Quoting: CD282
Did your data scientist guy notice that Pettersson actually played LW all season? Apparently not...


Quoting: MelonVK
I'm a big proponent of data analytics in sports. This is almost entirely useless without any write-up, methodology or anything. Top 20C based on what? *Effectiveness* means nothing, and "data scientist" or "analytics" as blanket statements are equally useless.


@FauxCentre on twitter. his opinions, not mine.
30 nov 2020 à 14 h 24
#9
CD282
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Point isn't top-10 when you remove Kucherov's influence.
 
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