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Would this team be better if Doug didnt sign EK65 last offseason

Créé par: Jumbo_Shark19
Équipe: 2020-21 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 11 nov. 2020
Publié: 11 nov. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Amazing how much 1 player's contract can on the entire team. Maybe the Donato and Dubnyk trades don't happen. Assuming that they still did, this team looks much better than the current construct in my opinion. I know what happened already happened, but it's interesting to see the impact 1 player/contract has on an entire team.
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                  11 nov. 2020 à 21 h 5
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                  they would've been better off if they never traded for Karlsson, and Tavares decided to sign in SJS rather than TO
                  11 nov. 2020 à 21 h 7
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                  You have Goodrow on the 4th line and he got you a 1st. It would be better if you kept that trade on. He was a lot more valuable to Tampa than SJ.
                  11 nov. 2020 à 21 h 14
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                  I agree. I think all SJ fans were shocked to get a first for him. But with this team they probably wouldn't have been bottom feeders in the league, looking to trade guys for picks. But I completely agree. The first will probably be more valuable long term.
                  11 nov. 2020 à 21 h 19
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                  Absolutely.
                  Most teams want to have a couple superstars, but on the open trade market they cost a lot.
                  A team like the Jackets or other small market team like Nashville or Carolina need to really focus on the drafting, developing, signing the right team type players who will put team first and get value type team friendly contracts. If there are players that start to not fit that mold or want more than their value..., they trade them away...Ryan Murray, Josh Anderson, etc.
                  They don’t over-compete for the Erik Karlsson’s of the world when they already have a Burns, Braun, & Vlasic. SJ didn’t have a problem with their defense. But they just HAD to go out and trade for a Karlsson. It set them back about 3-5 years. Nyquist is such a good player. For $5M+, he is the type of skilled and compete player the Jackets hope to stack their lineup with.
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                  11 nov. 2020 à 21 h 29
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                  I always think had they kept Hoffman and not made the E.Karlsson trade where would they be.
                  11 nov. 2020 à 21 h 33
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                  Norris would be your 3C too
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                  11 nov. 2020 à 21 h 37
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                  Quoting: Bluejackets2000
                  Absolutely.
                  Most teams want to have a couple superstars, but on the open trade market they cost a lot.
                  A team like the Jackets or other small market team like Nashville or Carolina need to really focus on the drafting, developing, signing the right team type players who will put team first and get value type team friendly contracts. If there are players that start to not fit that mold or want more than their value..., they trade them away...Ryan Murray, Josh Anderson, etc.
                  They don’t over-compete for the Erik Karlsson’s of the world when they already have a Burns, Braun, & Vlasic. SJ didn’t have a problem with their defense. But they just HAD to go out and trade for a Karlsson. It set them back about 3-5 years. Nyquist is such a good player. For $5M+, he is the type of skilled and compete player the Jackets hope to stack their lineup with.


                  I think the main thing was Wilson felt that he HAD to re-sign him after all the assets he traded just to acquire him. If he didn't, then he would have traded all of those players/picks for 1 injury plagued season of Karlsson. And that may have cost him his job if he didn't bring him back. But I definitely agree with everything you said. Columbus doesn't have that "superstar", but they play a great team game because of the guys they have in there, starting with Atkinson on down.
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                  11 nov. 2020 à 21 h 38
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                  Quoting: csick
                  Norris would be your 3C too


                  I'm not saying the EK65 trade never happened.... Just that he didn't get re-signed. But I would love to have Norris back in SJ. We sure could use him right now.
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                  11 nov. 2020 à 21 h 41
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                  Quoting: MisstheWhalers
                  I always think had they kept Hoffman and not made the E.Karlsson trade where would they be.


                  That was all a ploy to get assets due to the Hoffman Karlsson situation. Don't think for a second they had any plans on actually keeping him... But yes, interesting idea nonetheless if they would have kept him and retained all the assets they gave up for Karlsson.
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                  11 nov. 2020 à 21 h 49
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                  Quoting: Jumbo_Shark19
                  That was all a ploy to get assets due to the Hoffman Karlsson situation. Don't think for a second they had any plans on actually keeping him... But yes, interesting idea nonetheless if they would have kept him and retained all the assets they gave up for Karlsson.


                  Yeah I agree, don't think there was any intention to keep Hoffman, I think Wilson saw it as an opportunity to dump Boedker and get some assets but he got nothing special when he shipped Hoffman to Florida.

                  I just think of them if they had kept Hoffman plus still had Tierney at 3C plus whatever else they might be better off, I look at the Sharks now with their no name bottom 6 and wonder if they might of been a better team with Hoffman and whatever else.
                  12 nov. 2020 à 0 h 37
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                  Quoting: Bluejackets2000
                  Absolutely.
                  Most teams want to have a couple superstars, but on the open trade market they cost a lot.
                  A team like the Jackets or other small market team like Nashville or Carolina need to really focus on the drafting, developing, signing the right team type players who will put team first and get value type team friendly contracts. If there are players that start to not fit that mold or want more than their value..., they trade them away...Ryan Murray, Josh Anderson, etc.
                  They don’t over-compete for the Erik Karlsson’s of the world when they already have a Burns, Braun, & Vlasic. SJ didn’t have a problem with their defense. But they just HAD to go out and trade for a Karlsson. It set them back about 3-5 years. Nyquist is such a good player. For $5M+, he is the type of skilled and compete player the Jackets hope to stack their lineup with.


                  I agree with most of this, except that we did and do have a problem with our defense - Braun and Vlasic did a sharp as hell nosedive in 18-19 and Vlasic has yet to come out of it.
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                  12 nov. 2020 à 3 h 56
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                  You get your 2021 2nd round pick back as well

                  **Conditions: Sens receive Sharks 2021 2nd round pick if Karlsson is re-signed. The selection upgrades to a 2021 1st if Sharks reach the Stanley Cup final in 2019.
                  **Result: Sharks re-signed Karlsson but did not advance to the Stanley Cup final. Ottawa receives Sharks 2021 2nd round pick.
                  12 nov. 2020 à 13 h 44
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                  Quoting: sensibleguy
                  You get your 2021 2nd round pick back as well

                  **Conditions: Sens receive Sharks 2021 2nd round pick if Karlsson is re-signed. The selection upgrades to a 2021 1st if Sharks reach the Stanley Cup final in 2019.
                  **Result: Sharks re-signed Karlsson but did not advance to the Stanley Cup final. Ottawa receives Sharks 2021 2nd round pick.


                  EDIT: you're right! I misread things - and that 2021 2nd round pick would be invaluable.
                   
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