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Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 10 nov. 2020
Publié: 10 nov. 2020
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10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 2
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Leafs suck
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10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 3
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imma be a gm
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One: the leafs are not going trade marner for lee
two: nylander has more value than bennet and toronto would want more
10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 4
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While the Isles get the best player they cannot make that trade as they cannot afford Marner's contract.
10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 7
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Go leafs go
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Kings deal? Heck why not.
Flames deal? Ya sure (get ready for @Ledge_And_Dairy to murder you though)
Canucks deal? I guess but I like Rielly and the leafs clearly share my opinion. No need for it.
Islanders deal? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 19
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Kings deal? Heck why not.
Flames deal? Ya sure (get ready for @Ledge_And_Dairy to murder you though)
Canucks deal? I guess but I like Rielly and the leafs clearly share my opinion. No need for it.
Islanders deal? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yup pretty awful, would never touch that
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10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 21
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Quoting: capsfan2005
One: the leafs are not going trade marner for lee
two: nylander has more value than bennet and toronto would want more


Andersson has more value than Nylander though so your point is invalid
10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 23
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Andersson has more value than Nylander though so your point is invalid


Highly disagree, but ya,

Quoting: capsfan2005
One: the leafs are not going trade marner for lee
two: nylander has more value than bennet and toronto would want more


This post makes no sense as he forgot Andersson.
10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 24
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Quoting: capsfan2005
One: the leafs are not going trade marner for lee
two: nylander has more value than bennet and toronto would want more


I agree, Marner for Lee is horrid for the leafs. Mayfield and Beuliver don't make up half of what would be needed.
10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 26
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Highly disagree, but ya,



This post makes no sense as he forgot Andersson.


Young top 4 RD carry more value than young top 6 RW's, we can agree to disagree though
10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 33
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Young top 4 RD carry more value than young top 6 RW's, we can agree to disagree though


Yes, we can disagree (not sure why I @ ed you, because I should have known you would have disagreed with me hahahahaha).
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10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 42
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Yes, we can disagree (not sure why I @ ed you, because I should have known you would have disagreed with me hahahahaha).


Think about it this way, Andersson is currently on par with Brodie after his 2nd season in the league and just turned 24 2 weeks ago. It is very likely that he will continue to improve with a full time top 4 position in his 3rd season.
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10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 43
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Think about it this way, Andersson is currently on par with Brodie after his 2nd season in the league and just turned 24 2 weeks ago. It is very likely that he will continue to improve with a full time top 4 position in his 3rd season.


Yes, that is quite a fair Andersson anyalzation.
10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 48
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Just replace the 1st in the Calgary trade with a later pick (2nd) and it's fine. Andersson is decent, but Bennet is a 4th liner and together they don't get you a 30 goal scorer in Nylander.

Reilly is probably just as untouchable as Matthews, the leafs would really miss him as he just brings so much to the team.

LA trade is fine.

NYI one is just not really there for me. The leafs would likely ask for Pullock, Beavillier, and a 1st
10 nov. 2020 à 11 h 56
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Just replace the 1st in the Calgary trade with a later pick (2nd) and it's fine. Andersson is decent, but Bennet is a 4th liner and together they don't get you a 30 goal scorer in Nylander.

Reilly is probably just as untouchable as Matthews, the leafs would really miss him as he just brings so much to the team.

LA trade is fine.

NYI one is just not really there for me. The leafs would likely ask for Pullock, Beavillier, and a 1st


No, this is a very bad take. Flames would also decline that offer without hesitation. Andersson is not available if all Toronto is offering is Nylander. Bennett is also not a 4th liner
10 nov. 2020 à 19 h 13
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
No, this is a very bad take. Flames would also decline that offer without hesitation. Andersson is not available if all Toronto is offering is Nylander. Bennett is also not a 4th liner


Andersson and Bennet are both overrated by Flames fans. Andersson is a solid second pairing guy but he needs to prove he can play top pairing minutes imo. Bennet is a gritty player and his playoffs were decent but you cannot ignore the fact that he only had 12 points in 52 games. That is a 4th line forward. Maybe he can breakout but I find it unlikely
10 nov. 2020 à 19 h 37
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Andersson and Bennet are both overrated by Flames fans. Andersson is a solid second pairing guy but he needs to prove he can play top pairing minutes imo. Bennet is a gritty player and his playoffs were decent but you cannot ignore the fact that he only had 12 points in 52 games. That is a 4th line forward. Maybe he can breakout but I find it unlikely


No one ignoring the fact that Bennett had a poor season when he was stapled to Jankowski's wing. When he was moved to center and given remotely competent line mates he played excellent. Also this is not his first time playing well in the playoffs, this happens every playoffs.

Calling Andersson "a solid 2nd pairing guy that needs to prove he can play top pairing minutes" shows how little you know about him. He is already playing top pairing minutes and was as good as Brodie this year. He only just completed his 2nd NHL season and should only get better. Ras is also far from being shelted, in games vs the Oilers, Avalanche, etc. He 8s the go to guy for shutting down McDavid, MacKinnon, and whoever the oppositions best player is.
10 nov. 2020 à 21 h 21
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VAN decline.
11 nov. 2020 à 10 h 20
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Yes, that is quite a fair Andersson anyalzation.


Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Young top 4 RD carry more value than young top 6 RW's, we can agree to disagree though


I would simply point to the Hall for Larsson trade as to why you don't trade skilled forwards for shutdown D-Men straight-up.
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I would simply point to the Hall for Larsson trade as to why you don't trade skilled forwards for shutdown D-Men straight-up.


Great point! Nylander is not quite as good as Hall, but overall this is a great comparison to a Nylander for Andersson trade.
11 nov. 2020 à 10 h 28
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I would simply point to the Hall for Larsson trade as to why you don't trade skilled forwards for shutdown D-Men straight-up.


Larsson had just completed his 5th NHL season and was an 18 point player on average, also Hall is much better than Nylander. It's not a bad example but it's not a great one. My counter argument would be Seth Jones for Ryan Johanen
11 nov. 2020 à 10 h 29
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Great point! Nylander is not quite as good as Hall, but overall this is a great comparison to a Nylander for Andersson trade.


My above one is equally as good an argument that provides the exact opposite result
11 nov. 2020 à 10 h 35
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My above one is equally as good an argument that provides the exact opposite result

Agree to disagree. IN my opinion Nylander is far better than Andersson, but I'm not changing your mind so... grin
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11 nov. 2020 à 11 h 2
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Agree to disagree. IN my opinion Nylander is far better than Andersson, but I'm not changing your mind so... grin


Quoting: Saskleaf
Agree to disagree. IN my opinion Nylander is far better than Andersson, but I'm not changing your mind so... grin


Glad we can actually have discussions with each other without anyone getting angry. Great discussion guys! Love taking other peoples opinions into consideration.
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