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Overpaid

Créé par: mauston_atthews
Date de création initiale: nov 7, 2020
Publié: 7 nov 2020 à 19 h 48
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20999 999 999 $146 853 000 $0 $0 $853 146 999 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
DAL
Benn, Jamie
9 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
LAK
Kopitar, Anze
10 000 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
ANA
Getzlaf, Ryan
8 250 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
6 000 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3
PHI
van Riemsdyk, James
7 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
BOS
Krejci, David
7 250 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Anderson, Josh
5 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 7
VAN
Eriksson, Loui
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
NYI
Cizikas, Casey
3 350 000 $
C
UFA - 1
NYI
Clutterbuck, Cal
3 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
CAR
Gardiner, Jake
4 050 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
SJS
Karlsson, Erik
11 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
FLA
Bobrovsky, Sergei
10 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
4 800 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
LAK
Doughty, Drew
11 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
SJS
Jones, Martin
5 750 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 4
OTT
Zaitsev, Nikita
4 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
NJD
Subban, P.K.
9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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7 nov 2020 à 19 h 56
#1
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Anderson I think is too early. We'll see after a season.
The rest.....all true.
7 nov 2020 à 20 h 04
#2
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Marner isn't even close to being overpaid. The kid is only 23. Everyone else is accurate
7 nov 2020 à 20 h 05
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Milan Lucic, James neal
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7 nov 2020 à 20 h 07
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Andrew Ladd, Johnny Boychuk.
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7 nov 2020 à 20 h 13
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Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
Marner isn't even close to being overpaid. The kid is only 23. Everyone else is accurate

I guess you could say that...
7 nov 2020 à 20 h 14
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Quoting: leafsguy292
I guess you could say that...


This is all subjective
7 nov 2020 à 20 h 18
#7
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Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
Marner isn't even close to being overpaid. The kid is only 23. Everyone else is accurate


He sure is....there is only one other winger making more...both are overpaid...
7 nov 2020 à 20 h 31
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Quoting: Jetman
He sure is....there is only one other winger making more...both are overpaid...


Quoting: leafsguy292
This is all subjective


Quoting: TheLeafsSeason
Marner isn't even close to being overpaid. The kid is only 23. Everyone else is accurate


might make a marner chart, just like my nylander one, so I can point out that while marner is perhaps slightly overpaid, he's still arguably one of the best wingers in the NHL.

stay tuned >: )
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7 nov 2020 à 20 h 35
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
might make a marner chart, just like my nylander one, so I can point out that while marner is perhaps slightly overpaid, he's still arguably one of the best wingers in the NHL.

stay tuned >: )


Oh no...
7 nov 2020 à 20 h 49
#10
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
might make a marner chart, just like my nylander one, so I can point out that while marner is perhaps slightly overpaid, he's still arguably one of the best wingers in the NHL.

stay tuned >: )


There are about 15 different wingers that I would rather have that are cheaper
7 nov 2020 à 21 h 11
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Quoting: leafsguy292
Oh no...


Quoting: Jetman
There are about 15 different wingers that I would rather have that are cheaper


the process got tedious quick and I opted not to

also, the idea that some guys are cheaper is true, but it's because of their signing age/performance at the time of signing etc. etc.

There's 3 players with more primary assists per 60 than marner (McDavid, Stamkos, and Wheeler) since 16-17. Take that to just the last 2 seasons and it's only McDavid.

In terms of points/60, marner is 15th behind Matthews, Point, Bergeron, Kane, MacKinnon, Crosby, Huberdeau, Panarin, Malkin, Draisaitl, Marchand, Stamkos, McDavid, Pasta, and Kucherov (all some of THE BEST players in the league, bar-none).

Before you complain about his contract, he's 23 (was 22 all of last year), where-as those other guys are mostly pushing 30, save for some who are in their prime (25-29) and signed their deals when the cap was lower and/or before they actually started playing well (MacKinnon, Pasta, Huberdeau etc.)

Even if you take a guy like Kucherov, his deal carries him till he's 34. Marner's takes him till he's 28, right in the middle of his prime.

He very well could eclipse 100 points before we know and it surpass a lot of these guys. He's playing worlds better than most of them did at the same point in their career
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7 nov 2020 à 21 h 27
#12
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Not sure why DeAngelo is on here. He could have easily commended 5+. Although his Defense is not great, he did just finish 4th in scoring among Defenseman and is our PP QB. For what he brings, he’s paid about right.
8 nov 2020 à 16 h 23
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Kopitar isnt overpaid.
9 nov 2020 à 0 h 40
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Quoting: KingLundqvist30
Not sure why DeAngelo is on here. He could have easily commended 5+. Although his Defense is not great, he did just finish 4th in scoring among Defenseman and is our PP QB. For what he brings, he’s paid about right.


4th in scoring for Dman, and 4th in ES scoring for a dman. Makes less than other offensive dmen like OEL, Faulk and Risto. Also less than former Ranger Brady Skjei... TDA is one of the better offensive defensemen in the league.
 
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