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Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 5 nov. 2020
Publié: 5 nov. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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PHI
  1. Matheson, Michael
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
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PIT
  1. Boeser, Brock
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they sell low
VAN
  1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  2. Rust, Bryan
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
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5 nov. 2020 à 14 h 34
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Why sell low? I don't see the incentive for the Canucks, even if they can sign Hoffman or something after.
5 nov. 2020 à 14 h 36
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Canucks counter with Eriksson for Crosby
5 nov. 2020 à 15 h 1
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Why sell low? I don't see the incentive for the Canucks, even if they can sign Hoffman or something after.


idk Boeser could ask out. It's not a bad offer, PPG player, a young DFD to play with/under Quinn, a 2nd, and cap space
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5 nov. 2020 à 19 h 30
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Canucks LD depth is strong: hughes edler Benn juolevo Rathbone. Looks like Rust has been ppg for exactly 1 season. Not sure why Canucks would do this one
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5 nov. 2020 à 23 h 34
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Tbh I'd rather Rust than Boeser atm. Rust is a great fit in Pittsburgh, can't see him anywhere else.
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6 nov. 2020 à 3 h 59
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Well that’s just crazy. Come on. Rust, plus a top 100 prospect in P-O-Joseph and a 2nd round pick is fair value for B.Boeser man. Not like that trade is gonna happen but u act like that’s an outrageous offer. Most Pens fans would say it’s too much. It just cause u have no idea who who P-O-Joseph is or how good Rust is.

Here u go buddy. Some reading on P-O-Joseph.

https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-top-100-prospects-ranking/

The Phily offer is the real offer that would cause a problem IMO. Matheson has to produce this year to have any value with that contract and term.
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6 nov. 2020 à 13 h 37
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Well that’s just crazy. Come on. Rust, plus a top 100 prospect in P-O-Joseph and a 2nd round pick is fair value for B.Boeser man. Not like that trade is gonna happen but u act like that’s an outrageous offer. Most Pens fans would say it’s too much. It just cause u have no idea who who P-O-Joseph is or how good Rust is.

Here u go buddy. Some reading on P-O-Joseph.

https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-top-100-prospects-ranking/

The Phily offer is the real offer that would cause a problem IMO. Matheson has to produce this year to have any value with that contract and term.


He is ranked 94th overall, Rust is 28 years old doesnt fit the core of the team that being said Boeser has already had better years with being younger not only that rust played with Crosby for most of the year. And a late 2nd? tell me what Potential 30-40 goal scorer is that going to get you its a dumb offer man
6 nov. 2020 à 20 h 6
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Quoting: theleano1
He is ranked 94th overall, Rust is 28 years old doesnt fit the core of the team that being said Boeser has already had better years with being younger not only that rust played with Crosby for most of the year. And a late 2nd? tell me what Potential 30-40 goal scorer is that going to get you its a dumb offer man


Alex DeBrincat and Sebastian Aho are 2nd round picks so it's not impossible
6 nov. 2020 à 20 h 41
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He is ranked 94th overall, Rust is 28 years old doesnt fit the core of the team that being said Boeser has already had better years with being younger not only that rust played with Crosby for most of the year. And a late 2nd? tell me what Potential 30-40 goal scorer is that going to get you its a dumb offer man


Brock Boesner never scored 30-40 goals in a season. Rust is a proven point per game player. 57 points in 56 games. So he’s done it b4. Anyone can say a 30-40 point scorer potential?? He’s never done it. Never even scored 30 a year. Rust, P-O-Joseph and a 1st is for sure the value of Brock Boesner. A Top 6 forward on a good team, a top 100 prospect and a 1st round pick. 100% his value. It’s what Malkin would get. A top 6 forward/NHL player, a top 100 prospect and a 1st round pick. That’s the value of a all-star. Hate to tell u man. What do u think u are gonna get?? 3 NHL players and 3 1st round picks like Gretzky got..?? lol.
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6 nov. 2020 à 21 h 25
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Brock Boesner never scored 30-40 goals in a season. Rust is a proven point per game player. 57 points in 56 games. So he’s done it b4. Anyone can say a 30-40 point scorer potential?? He’s never done it. Never even scored 30 a year. Rust, P-O-Joseph and a 1st is for sure the value of Brock Boesner. A Top 6 forward on a good team, a top 100 prospect and a 1st round pick. 100% his value. It’s what Mallon would get. A top 6 forward/NHL player, a top 100 prospect and a 1st round pick. That’s the value of a all-star. Hate to tell u man. What do u think u are gonna get?? 3 NHL players and 3 1st round picks like Gretzky got..?? lol.


Lol you totally missed the point of my post Rust Benefits from playing from Crosby this year that's why he had 56 points which is career high Matching Boeser i am not sitting here saying Brock is the best player in the world But he is at least worth a Top 4 OR a Mid first a the lowest, you are Delusional if you can get a potential 30-40 goal scorer for a Fringe top 6 player a late 2nd and a prospect That doesn't even Crack the Canucks top 10 Prospects, Vancouver has no appetite to move Boeser you will have to over pay. I ask you would you trade Jake Guntzel (Who had similar Numbers this year) For a late 2nd a prospect ranked in the 90s and a fringe top 6 player?
6 nov. 2020 à 21 h 31
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Alex DeBrincat and Sebastian Aho are 2nd round picks so it's not impossible


Okay and Datsyuk was a 6th round pick, That's a dumb argument to make it make's no sense for Vancouver to sell low on Boeser We are weak as is on RW.
6 nov. 2020 à 23 h 16
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Lol you totally missed the point of my post Rust Benefits from playing from Crosby this year that's why he had 56 points which is career high Matching Boeser i am not sitting here saying Brock is the best player in the world But he is at least worth a Top 4 OR a Mid first a the lowest, you are Delusional if you can get a potential 30-40 goal scorer for a Fringe top 6 player a late 2nd and a prospect That doesn't even Crack the Canucks top 10 Prospects, Vancouver has no appetite to move Boeser you will have to over pay. I ask you would you trade Jake Guntzel (Who had similar Numbers this year) For a late 2nd a prospect ranked in the 90s and a fringe top 6 player?


Ya, I saw and read what u said!! It just doesn’t make sense homie!! It doesn’t need a response. Rust doesn’t play with Crosby. He’s on Malkin’s line. He’s not even on our 1st PP unit with Crosby. But Crosby does sometime continue playing in the 2nd PP unit though too so I guess you got me there. But no, Rust doesn’t play with Crosby. Never has.

P-O-Joseph would be Vancouver top 3-4 prospect. He’s NHL ready and a really good two-way Defensive player. Played over 25 minutes a game in the AHL last year. The Baby Pens coach loves him, put him on every situation. Both PP, And PK. He came into the Pens organization at 6’3 163 pounds and put on 20 pounds of muscle in 2 years with the Pens and is up to 6’3 and 185 pounds
solid now. I’m not super familiar with Cancouver farm system but no way P-O-Joseph isn’t atleast a top 3-4 prospect in your system.

And Brock played with Pettersson. Elias Pettersson is a top 10 Center in the NHL, same as Malkin with Rust.i don’t get your point?? A lot of players have played with All-Stars b4, u still have to produce and hold your own!!

And yes, Guentzel would bring back a top 6 forward, a top prospect and a 1st Round pick. And Guentzel is a proven 40 goal scorer. He’s better than Brock, was on a career year last year. Made his 1st all-star team but got hurt and had shoulder surgery right b4 the All-star game. But was over a PPG average b4 his season ended with shoulder surgery. So no, their numbers weren’t similar. Brock B. had the same amount of points in 20 more games. And yes, thats Guentzel value, probably a young top 6 forward with potential to be a PPG player, a top
Prospect and a 1st round pick. Yes, 100%, that’s his value. What are u expecting teams to trade?? Give up 3-4 players and 2-3 1st rounders?? It’s not happening man. That’s way, way over value for 1 player.
8 nov. 2020 à 12 h 53
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Okay and Datsyuk was a 6th round pick, That's a dumb argument to make it make's no sense for Vancouver to sell low on Boeser We are weak as is on RW.


Right just like Connor Sherry and Dominick Simon played with Crosby. What’s your point?? U still have to produce?? Brock Boesner plays with Elias Pettersson who is a top 10 Center in the league. And u missed the Point. For the 100th time!! RUST DOESNT PLAY WITH CROSBY!! He plays on Malkins line. Has since his rookie year. And no way PO-Joseph isn’t the 3-4th best prospect in the Canucks system. And he’s NHL ready. I’m not super familiar with Vancouver’s farm system but I would be willing to bet they don’t have 10 top 100 prospects.

Here’s one from 2019-20 where he is ranked #69.you just don’t know who he is. It’s ok. When he has A.Fox like production. All Canucks fans are gonna be on here wanted to trade for him.

https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2019/09/22/2019-top-nhl-prospects-80-61/?amp=1
 
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