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3-way trade with VGK and MTL

Créé par: justaBoss
Équipe: 2020-21 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 4 nov. 2020
Publié: 4 nov. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
CHI receives: Marc-Andre Fleury (15% retained), Cale Fleury, 2021 1st round pick (VGK), 2021 1st round pick (MTL), 2021 2nd round pick (NJ), 2022 3rd round pick (VAN).

VGK receives: Dylan Strome, Joel Armia, Collin Delia

MTL receives: Alex Tuch, 2021 2nd round pick (CHI)
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Fleury, Marc-André (1 050 000 $ retained)
  2. Tuch, Alex
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
VGK
  1. Strome, Dylan [Droits de RFA]
2.
CHI
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Fleury, Cale
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
MTL
  1. Tuch, Alex
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
3.
CHI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2021
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Logo de MTL
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2022
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Logo de VAN
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $68 070 480 $1 090 244 $5 070 000 $13 429 520 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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3 700 000 $3 700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C, AD
RFA - 2
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2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 3
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562 500 $562 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
5 538 462 $5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
771 666 $771 666 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 1

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4 nov. 2020 à 18 h 55
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Tuch isn't really necessary in MTL now that they have Andersson signed long-term. And Gallagher and Toffoli also on the right side, I don't see a spot for him on that team really, at least on in the top 6.

And that is an awfully good return for CHI when all they give up is Strome and Delia...
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4 nov. 2020 à 18 h 57
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I'd be all in for that if we hadn't Gallagher and Anderson long-term
4 nov. 2020 à 19 h 21
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Quoting: villenash
Tuch isn't really necessary in MTL now that they have Andersson signed long-term. And Gallagher and Toffoli also on the right side, I don't see a spot for him on that team really, at least on in the top 6.

And that is an awfully good return for CHI when all they give up is Strome and Delia...

I agree, but I think the idea is that taking back MAF means we get a first. Not agreeing, just suggesting this interpretation.
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4 nov. 2020 à 19 h 35
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Quoting: SevenLeg
I'd be all in for that if we hadn't Gallagher and Anderson long-term


I would still consider this. We could line up

Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Drouin-Suzuki-anderson
Taffoli-Kotkaniemi-Tuch
Byron-Evans-Lehkonen

We may have to move out Kulak for a 3rd but the money could work as well
4 nov. 2020 à 19 h 39
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I would still consider this. We could line up

Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Drouin-Suzuki-anderson
Taffoli-Kotkaniemi-Tuch
Byron-Evans-Lehkonen

We may have to move out Kulak for a 3rd but the money could work as well


Then the year after it prevents us to sign Danault, and creates a logjam for when Caufield is ready
4 nov. 2020 à 19 h 40
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Brad Boyes please Wq
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Nah from VGK
4 nov. 2020 à 19 h 40
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Then the year after it prevents us to sign Danault, and creates a logjam for when Caufield is ready


No cause Tatar walks anyway. And one of Edmondson Allen or Chiarot goes to Seattle
4 nov. 2020 à 19 h 44
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Interesting idea but the MTL perspective is kind of lacking. They shored that spot they wanted for a guy like Tuch already. Adding more is just overkill. Habs are gonna be in the same cap situation as TB soon if they don't be careful.

Tuch is exactly who they wanted but they filled that role already. Doesn't make sense to waste Armia, Fleury and a 1st on Tuch right now.

Cool concept though and if MTL didn't make the Anderson trade, I'd be all over this. Too little too late unfortunately.
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4 nov. 2020 à 20 h 32
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Chicago is getting way too much in this deal. Like how do they get THAT for Strome, Delia, and a 2nd?
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4 nov. 2020 à 20 h 40
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Like it has been said, Anderson and Toffoli being signed makes Alex Tuch uneccessary right now. But props for bringing an orginal and realistic idea!
4 nov. 2020 à 21 h 40
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Quoting: jwg314
Chicago is getting way too much in this deal. Like how do they get THAT for Strome, Delia, and a 2nd?


In this scenario the hawks essentially get a 1st for taking on MAF's cap hit. Then they get cale fleury, a first, and a 3rd for strome and delia. They give up a 2nd and also get a 2nd in that mix too. Seems pretty fair to me.
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4 nov. 2020 à 22 h 7
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
In this scenario the hawks essentially get a 1st for taking on MAF's cap hit. Then they get cale fleury, a first, and a 3rd for strome and delia. They give up a 2nd and also get a 2nd in that mix too. Seems pretty fair to me.


I wouldn’t trade Tuch for Strome straight up, and fleury isn’t going to be moved at this point before the season. We simply won’t pay a first to get rid of him
4 nov. 2020 à 22 h 38
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Great trade for Chicago. The other 2 teams meh...
5 nov. 2020 à 9 h 44
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Still counting.... since when Strome & Delia would get you 2 first rounder, Flower.. + 2nd, 3rd & Fleury D Prospect NHL ready.
Remove both 1st and now it's more fair
5 nov. 2020 à 9 h 50
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Quoting: DomCholette
Still counting.... since when Strome & Delia would get you 2 first rounder, Flower.. + 2nd, 3rd & Fleury D Prospect NHL ready.
Remove both 1st and now it's more fair


@SociallyHawkward explained the value there pretty well...
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5 nov. 2020 à 10 h 4
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@SociallyHawkward explained the value there pretty well...


That's what I mean... giving a negative value on MAF is ridiculous!
5 nov. 2020 à 10 h 11
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Quoting: DomCholette
That's what I mean... giving a negative value on MAF is ridiculous!


Normally I'd agree with you...but the situation is far from normal. But VGK has claimed they'll not pay a first to move Fleury...they'd rather just keep him.
5 nov. 2020 à 10 h 32
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That's what I mean... giving a negative value on MAF is ridiculous!


Fleury had a pretty bad year behind a really good vegas D. With Chicago's D in front of him he'd be terrible. It's a pure cap dump. I know vegas said they won't give up a 1st to move fleury but that's what it costs. He's old, expensive, and not really good anymore. Only reason he's still on vegas is because nobody is taking on that cap without getting atleast a 1st.

You say it's ridiculous to give MAF negative value but the league agrees with me.
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5 nov. 2020 à 11 h 24
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Fleury had a pretty bad year behind a really good vegas D. With Chicago's D in front of him he'd be terrible. It's a pure cap dump. I know vegas said they won't give up a 1st to move fleury but that's what it costs. He's old, expensive, and not really good anymore. Only reason he's still on vegas is because nobody is taking on that cap without getting atleast a 1st.

You say it's ridiculous to give MAF negative value but the league agrees with me.


second goalie as alot of value for the next 2 years... trading MAF to Calgary or Edm per example with a 3M retain would be better then signing Talbot, smith.. or behind Binnington in STL etc..
They would keep their 1st and retain instead
5 nov. 2020 à 17 h 12
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second goalie as alot of value for the next 2 years... trading MAF to Calgary or Edm per example with a 3M retain would be better then signing Talbot, smith.. or behind Binnington in STL etc..
They would keep their 1st and retain instead


Calgary and Edmonton have their goalies already. Yeah he'd be a better backup than mike Smith but they're already paying mike smith. They're not gonna get a third goalie.
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