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What has to happen

Créé par: TampaBayFan94
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 4 nov. 2020
Publié: 4 nov. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 500 000 $
24 500 000 $
25 975 000 $
3850 000 $
3950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
Transactions
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TBL
  1. Hronek, Filip
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (DET)
DET
  1. Johnson, Tyler (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Joseph, Mathieu [Droits de RFA]
  3. McDonagh, Ryan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
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TBL
    Future Considerations
    3.
    TBL
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CBJ)
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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    2022
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    2023
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    2381 500 000 $80 660 924 $0 $657 500 $839 076 $
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    UFA - 1
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    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    AD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
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    759 258 $759 258 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
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    4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 3
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    1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
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    925 000 $925 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    737 500 $737 500 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    900 000 $900 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
    714 166 $714 166 $ (Bonis de performance157 500 $$158K)
    DD
    RFA - 1
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    1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
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    5 975 000 $5 975 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 3
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    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    850 000 $850 000 $
    DG
    RFA
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    800 000 $800 000 $
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    UFA - 1

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    4 nov. 2020 à 12 h 53
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    Hop on the Slaftrain
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    Detroit doesn't touch that.
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    4 nov. 2020 à 12 h 55
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    Detroit has no interest in that

    Doubt you get any value for Gourde.
    OldNYIfan, Trickster, buffbry and 2 others a aimé ceci.
    4 nov. 2020 à 13 h 0
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    Bowey over Hronek tells me all I need to know. That’s going to be a hard no from Detroit.
    OldNYIfan, BCAPP, Trickster and 3 others a aimé ceci.
    4 nov. 2020 à 13 h 2
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    No. If Serg is in there maybe.
    4 nov. 2020 à 13 h 5
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    Detroit is going to trade one of the guys they think is a cornerstone of their future defense for . . . THAT?

    I don't think so.
    SevenLeg, Trickster, buffbry and 2 others a aimé ceci.
    4 nov. 2020 à 13 h 10
    #6
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    Tampa is in cal hell. Why do you dump two cap hits and and include a 1st and expect to get anything back. Johnson has 3 years left even at 3 million and Mcdounagh has 6 at well over 6 million and he is 31. Then they give up a promising RHD defenseman and a high 2nd. Adding a prospect is not getting you this?

    Why would Wings make this deal?
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    4 nov. 2020 à 13 h 25
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    Columbus doesn’t make that trade... we have no use for another 3rd line center.
    BCAPP et Trickster a aimé ceci.
    4 nov. 2020 à 13 h 35
    #8
    hey look a squirrel
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    No one took Johnson for fre but the Wings take him in this deal for one of the franchise guys?
    Yeah no.
    4 nov. 2020 à 13 h 51
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    This is the biggest pass in the history of the site for the wings. You forgot to add in point, sergechev, vas and cirelli
    OldNYIfan, Trickster, aedoran and 1 other person a aimé ceci.
    4 nov. 2020 à 14 h 38
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    Unfortunately nobody is going to come along and "magically save" TB from their Cap problems.
    In order to get out of it, TB will need to pay teams to take their cap dumps. Plain and simple.
    Gourde along with (2) 3rd round picks for a 7th round pick and a MEH prospect (maybe), in return.
    You have not 1, but 2 cap dumps going to Detroit (Yes, I know McDonough can still play, and so can Johnson).
    No one is taking $12M in salary tied up for 4-6 years unless it is REALLY worth their while to do so.
    4 nov. 2020 à 15 h 4
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    At this point I wouldn't trade Sergachev for Hronek straight up. All that would do is move the hole from the left side of Detroit's defense to the right side of their defense.
    6 nov. 2020 à 21 h 1
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    Quoting: aedoran
    At this point I wouldn't trade Sergachev for Hronek straight up. All that would do is move the hole from the left side of Detroit's defense to the right side of their defense.


    Hahaha Hronek is nowhere close to sergy. I guess trade a 7tg for him is better tho?
    6 nov. 2020 à 21 h 2
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    Quoting: SevenLeg
    Detroit doesn't touch that.


    Quoting: BCAPP
    Detroit has no interest in that

    Doubt you get any value for Gourde.


    Quoting: BStinson
    Bowey over Hronek tells me all I need to know. That’s going to be a hard no from Detroit.


    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Detroit is going to trade one of the guys they think is a cornerstone of their future defense for . . . THAT?

    I don't think so.


    Quoting: mikearky
    Tampa is in cal hell. Why do you dump two cap hits and and include a 1st and expect to get anything back. Johnson has 3 years left even at 3 million and Mcdounagh has 6 at well over 6 million and he is 31. Then they give up a promising RHD defenseman and a high 2nd. Adding a prospect is not getting you this?

    Why would Wings make this deal?


    Quoting: buffbry
    This is the biggest pass in the history of the site for the wings. You forgot to add in point, sergechev, vas and cirelli


    Quoting: aedoran
    At this point I wouldn't trade Sergachev for Hronek straight up. All that would do is move the hole from the left side of Detroit's defense to the right side of their defense.


    No they accept Detroit is terrible anyways this makes them better
    6 nov. 2020 à 22 h 25
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    Modifié 7 nov. 2020 à 6 h 0
    Quoting: TampaBayFan94
    No they accept Detroit is terrible anyways this makes them better


    Detroit is bad, I agree but how does this make them better? Eats alot of cap for older players that will not be part of the rebuild and giving up a cost controlled promising defeneman and a pick are not a recipe for a rebuilding team. Tampa has a cap problem, this solves their problem and only hurts the Wings. Sorry I believe you are wrong.
    7 nov. 2020 à 4 h 52
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    Quoting: TampaBayFan94
    No they accept Detroit is terrible anyways this makes them better


    This doesn't really make them better even in the short term. Adding McDonaugh on the left is good, but then Detroit's only accomplished RD is Stetcher. You fill 1LD by creating a hole at 1RD. And Johnson at $3M isn't terrible, but doesn't fit the rebuild timeline timeline at all.
    This trade would screw the Wings in the short term by taking their best young defenseman and screw the future by tying up too much cap for several seasons to come. Also, McDonaugh is signed for about 3 seasons too long for that cap hit. Detroit wouldn't even consider this.
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