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Équipe: 2020-21 Équipe personnalisée
Date de création initiale: 3 nov. 2020
Publié: 3 nov. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LW: 1-10
C: 11-20
RW: 21-30
LD: 31-40
RD: 41-50
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 36
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as soon as i saw hughes over makar i knew u were a canucks fan

makar is better.
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 37
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Doughty, Karlsson, Giordano, Spurgeon are too high and Hughes, Makar, Werenski, and McAvoy are too low
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 37
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Where is the goalie??? and where do they get that kind of money to pay them??? wink
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 38
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I'm not sure Duncan Keith belongs over guys like Pesce and Girard.
3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 38
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Quoting: lebronisdagoat
as soon as i saw hughes over makar i knew u were a canucks fan

makar is better.


Here's where my mind is at:
- Makar definitely was the better defenseman... up until January. My fandom didn't influence this list - if it did, yeah whatever call me out on it.
- I think Hughes surpassed Makar in the back end of the year and definitely the playoffs.
- Makar without a doubt was the rightful calder winner.
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 39
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Doughty, Karlsson, Giordano, Spurgeon are too high and Hughes, Makar, Werenski, and McAvoy are too low


And Sanheim and Suter
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 45
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Doughty shouldn’t even be on this list - his stats are awful
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 46
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Doughty, Karlsson, Giordano, Spurgeon are too high and Hughes, Makar, Werenski, and McAvoy are too low

Karlsson should be top 10-20 (subjectively, personally I’d say top 13-17) Doughty shouldn’t even be here, he is brutal, I’d move mcavoy and Werenski higher, Hughes and Makar have one season on the resume I think they’re fine/ maybe a couple spots higher

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And Sanheim and Suter


Agreed
3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 46
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Doughty shouldn’t even be on this list - his stats are awful


I did not build this list caring at all of what the advanced stat people have to say.

I'm keeping him and Karlsson higher on this list for now. They are not so dreadful that they are yeeted into oblivion.
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 47
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Maybe I'm just biased, but my personal list would have Morgan Rielly higher. Makar and Hughes are a bit low too.
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 48
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I love how everyone just disrespects Rielly like that
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Karlsson should be top 10-20 (subjectively, personally I’d say top 13-17) Doughty shouldn’t even be here, he is brutal, I’d move mcavoy and Werenski higher, Hughes and Makar have one season on the resume I think they’re fine


I actively tried to push the two of them higher but wasn't finding it. I think Spurgeon is severely underrated and I like his place on the top 20. In general I think McAvoy is quite overrated.

For most of this list I essentially was just l ooking at 2 guys at a time and questioning who of them is better.
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 51
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Maybe I'm just biased, but my personal list would have Morgan Rielly higher. Makar and Hughes are a bit low too.


I don't want to put the cart before the horse with Makar and Hughes. Consistency had a reasonable impact on this list. Same reason Doughty and Karlsson are still here as I based it on a declining trend rather than their place only this year.

Rielly belongs to the 12-17 range. Any higher is overrating.
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I love how everyone just disrespects Rielly like that


After this season, I somewhat understand it, but I agree he's a top 10 defenceman. Nowdays, that a very unpopular opinion.
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 52
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Quoting: Wqrrior
I actively tried to push the two of them higher but wasn't finding it. I think Spurgeon is severely underrated and I like his place on the top 20. In general I think McAvoy is quite overrated.

For most of this list I essentially was just l ooking at 2 guys at a time and questioning who of them is better.


A lot of mcavoys case comes defensively - he’s a good two way but much more defensive

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I did not build this list caring at all of what the advanced stat people have to say.

I'm keeping him and Karlsson higher on this list for now. They are not so dreadful that they are yeeted into oblivion.


Karlsson has the right to the spot but honestly I thought Doughty wasn’t good before I looked through his stats but he’s just been god awful - he brings leadership and experience LA needs for the kids but not much more.

Quoting: Saskleaf
Maybe I'm just biased, but my personal list would have Morgan Rielly higher. Makar and Hughes are a bit low too.


Quoting: RangerWall92
I love how everyone just disrespects Rielly like that


Rielly should be top 10-11 IMO but I can see how he’s top15 easily, I’d have him higher than karlsson but this is a !subjective post!
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 52
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Quoting: Wqrrior
I did not build this list caring at all of what the advanced stat people have to say.

I'm keeping him and Karlsson higher on this list for now. They are not so dreadful that they are yeeted into oblivion.


You don't need to look at Doughty's advanced stats to know he's awful. He's essentially Edler while being paid 11mil
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 54
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I don't want to put the cart before the horse with Makar and Hughes. Consistency had a reasonable impact on this list. Same reason Doughty and Karlsson are still here as I based it on a declining trend rather than their place only this year.

Rielly belongs to the 12-17 range. Any higher is overrating.


That's perfectly fair critizism. There is the possiblity that they won't get any better, but they should. As for Rielly, I guess it depends. Are you looking at the 2018-19 Rielly? Or the 2019-20 Rielly? I tend to look at the 18-19 Rielly. But this season was just as much a season as last (not quite haha), so putting him where you put him is perfectly fair. Just telling you what my list would look like.
3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 55
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Honestly, muzzin should be higher than that. He's definitely better than klefbom
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3 nov. 2020 à 14 h 56
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A lot of mcavoys case comes defensively - he’s a good two way but much more defensive



Karlsson has the right to the spot but honestly I thought Doughty wasn’t good before I looked through his stats but he’s just been god awful - he brings leadership and experience LA needs for the kids but not much more.





Rielly should be top 10-11 IMO but I can see how he’s top15 easily, I’d have him higher than karlsson but this is a !subjective post!


And yet we still see those moronic Marner for Doughty trades.....

Thanks for telling your opinion on Rielly by the way.
3 nov. 2020 à 15 h 1
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Quoting: Saskleaf
And yet we still see those moronic Marner for Doughty trades.....

Thanks for telling your opinion on Rielly by the way.


Marner is worthy of a guy in 17-27 range kinda depends on the name, the team, the situation (money, cap, position, etc) but I dislike marner and still hold this opinion.

Doughty isn’t even top 50 imo so Yeha lol - doesn’t fit the “range”.

Rielly is very good, last year I rated him I think 5th-6th, times have changed but if we’re counting everything Rielly brings (INCLUDING a 5 m cap hit) - he’s a very strong core piece for a team needing a top pairing defender. I believe he’s captain material too and he still has room to improve
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3 nov. 2020 à 15 h 2
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how do you have McDonagh there but not Sergachev
3 nov. 2020 à 15 h 4
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Quoting: VastBluepuppy424
how do you have McDonagh there but not Sergachev


Ah yes there it is. I made this list last night but saved it until this morning. Kept telling myself I was missing someone but could not think of who - this is that "who"
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3 nov. 2020 à 15 h 4
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Darnell Nurse might have something to say about this list...
3 nov. 2020 à 15 h 6
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Darnell Nurse might have something to say about this list...


He isn't amazing. Just has the lore of being a high draft pick. In my opinion Klefbom is the best oilers defenseman, and I have him in the 40 range. Nurse would be in the 50-60 area.
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3 nov. 2020 à 15 h 6
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Quoting: Wqrrior
Here's where my mind is at:
- Makar definitely was the better defenseman... up until January. My fandom didn't influence this list - if it did, yeah whatever call me out on it.
- I think Hughes surpassed Makar in the back end of the year and definitely the playoffs.
- Makar without a doubt was the rightful calder winner.


I think Heiskanen surpassed them both after his playoff performance.
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