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How far would this team go after a huge trade with the bruins

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3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 0
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What's funny is that you play Brodie as RD1
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3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 1
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What's funny is that you play Brodie as RD1


... how is that funny?
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 3
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... how is that funny?


Brodie is a top4 D, he is on the second pair if you have McAvoy on the same team

Anyways, it's not happening
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 5
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Brodie is a top4 D, he is on the second pair if you have McAvoy on the same team

Anyways, it's not happening


I did that to balance out the top 2 lines. Brodie is definitely a top-pairing defenceman
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 6
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I mean, it’s just a laughably bad trade for boston. There’s no mcavoy without Matthews. And since toronto isn’t trading Matthews, i think it’s safe to just move on here.
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 7
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I did that to balance out the top 2 lines. Brodie is definitely a top-pairing defenceman

If you want to make the argument that he’s a very low end top pair guy, i won’t fight you on it. The point remains that you would want mcavoy playing 4 minutes more than Brodie every night at minimum.
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 12
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If you want to make the argument that he’s a very low end top pair guy, i won’t fight you on it. The point remains that you would want mcavoy playing 4 minutes more than Brodie every night at minimum.


I know the trade is unrealistic but value wise I think its definitely fair. Nylander can play LW on the 2nd line and craig smith can play RW on the 2nd line.
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 15
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how is a cornerstone FRANCHISE top pair dman and 2 2nd liners, for a bottom pairing dman (holl) a 2nd line rw who needs a goal scorer to be as good as he is (nylander) and reilly (slight krug upgrade) fair value? Boston gets crushed in this deal. cmon dude.
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 17
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Quoting: hanson493
how is a cornerstone FRANCHISE top pair dman and 2 2nd liners, for a bottom pairing dman (holl) a 2nd line rw who needs a goal scorer to be as good as he is (nylander) and reilly (slight krug upgrade) fair value? Boston gets crushed in this deal. cmon dude.


nylander is a first line winger, just like tavares is a 1c, they just have better guys in front on the depth chart
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 17
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how is a cornerstone FRANCHISE top pair dman and 2 2nd liners, for a bottom pairing dman (holl) a 2nd line rw who needs a goal scorer to be as good as he is (nylander) and reilly (slight krug upgrade) fair value? Boston gets crushed in this deal. cmon dude.


they do not get crushed in this deal tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 18
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Quoting: MatthewsDynasty
I know the trade is unrealistic but value wise I think its definitely fair. Nylander can play LW on the 2nd line and craig smith can play RW on the 2nd line.


No no. Value wise it is a HORROR show. It would be the worst bruins trade of my life time, and that includes the Thornton trade.
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 18
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nylander is a first line winger, just like tavares is a 1c, they just have better guys in front on the depth chart


Hey guess what’s worth a billion times more than solid first line winger? A 22 year old franchise d man. Mcavoy is the bruins best player. They aren’t moving him for depth on the wing.
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3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 19
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No no. Value wise it is a HORROR show. It would be the worst bruins trade of my life time, and that includes the Thornton trade.


This is what I was thinking: Rielly and Holl = McAvoy then Nylander = Kase and Debrusk

What are you thinking?
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 21
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Not sure Min would do that trade either. The pick, probably 16-23, (make the playoffs and lose in the first round) or worse (they win a round in the playoffs), isn't enough to give up those prospects. If I'm calling Min, the first player I'm asking about is Dumba, but Greenway and Eriksson Ek are not far behind. Kerfoot and Mikheyev have value, but they don't tip the scale nearly enough.
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 21
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nylander is a first line winger, just like tavares is a 1c, they just have better guys in front on the depth chart


tavares is a 1c. but nylander has 2 elite scoring centers to play wing with. it makes his numbers inflated a little bit when he isnt carrying a line. if hes playing on the bruins hes on line 2 with krejci and who? nylander wouldnt crack 50.
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 22
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This is what I was thinking: Rielly and Holl = McAvoy then Nylander = Kase and Debrusk

What are you thinking?


I think Reilly and holl for mcavoy would be the worst trade made in Bruins history. First off, scrap holl. His value is literally zero to the bruins. Honestly maybe negative value because it’s just a roster spot and cap space when they have internal options they like better. Disagree with bruins management on that? I’m not going to argue with you. Maybe you’re right. But bruins management clearly love what they have internally, or they would have coughed up a 3rd rounder for Nate schmidt.

Mcavoy is the bruins best player. He’s 22. Four years left of team control. He’s better than Reilly. His contract situation is better than Reilly. There’s just no conceivable scenario where the bruins trade mcavoy to toronto without Matthews in return. Toronto definitely won’t do that, of course.
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3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 25
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This is what I was thinking: Rielly and Holl = McAvoy then Nylander = Kase and Debrusk

What are you thinking?


Holl is worth kevan miller. Rielly is probably worth debrusk but as currently constituted ide rather keep debrusk. since now rielly has to play with carlo top 2 and our bottom 4 dpairings are trashed.
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 28
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This is what I was thinking: Rielly and Holl = McAvoy then Nylander = Kase and Debrusk

What are you thinking?


First one if off, second one, yes although all three players will improve so DeBrusk+Kase could have the edge in a year or so
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 28
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Hey guess what’s worth a billion times more than solid first line winger? A 22 year old franchise d man. Mcavoy is the bruins best player. They aren’t moving him for depth on the wing.


when did i ever say nylander was worth more, i simply said hes not a 2nd line winger like the previous guy said
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 28
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they do not get crushed in this deal tears of joy tears of joy tears of joy


Ohhhhh yes they do. This is one of those trades where Sweeney would have to clear it with ownership before he made it, and would get fired for even suggesting it.
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 29
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when did i ever say nylander was worth more, i simply said hes not a 2nd line winger like the previous guy said


I’m fine with that. In the context of this trade it’s still just a tough look.
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 31
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Holl is worth kevan miller. Rielly is probably worth debrusk but as currently constituted ide rather keep debrusk. since now rielly has to play with carlo top 2 and our bottom 4 dpairings are trashed.


Ya Reilly is worth debrusk lol. I understand that Mcavoy is great but get real, the value is there and the leafs decline too.
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3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 32
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Quoting: hanson493
tavares is a 1c. but nylander has 2 elite scoring centers to play wing with. it makes his numbers inflated a little bit when he isnt carrying a line. if hes playing on the bruins hes on line 2 with krejci and who? nylander wouldnt crack 50.


what about pastrnaks numbers then? hes been placed with bergeron and marchand since he got here you dont think thats helped him? maybe berg isnt the same offensively as matthews and jt but hes an elite center, nylander is a top 15 rw in the nhl which makes him the 1rw on at least half of the teams if not more, im not here to argue this trade, nor am i here to say nylander is better than pasta cause hes not, but hes a 1st line rw
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 34
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Holl is worth kevan miller. Rielly is probably worth debrusk but as currently constituted ide rather keep debrusk. since now rielly has to play with carlo top 2 and our bottom 4 dpairings are trashed.


rielly is worth more than debrusk lmao, alot more, like bcarlo just said a d is worth more than a winger, debrusk is a 2nd line winger
3 nov. 2020 à 10 h 39
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I did that to balance out the top 2 lines. Brodie is definitely a top-pairing defenceman


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