Modifié 1 nov. 2020 à 18 h 33
Quoting: Campabee
Statsny is more of a 3C and Perfetti is not going to make the team this year and probably not next year either. So your teams immidiate need for a 2C still exists. It's not as dire cause Statsny can fill in that role short term but is not ideal.
Claiming that Danault, Caufield, Tatar and Poehling would be the Jets 6th best forward is misleading and wrong, cause you are forgetting that in order to acquire one you would be losing Laine making one of them the 5th best and another the 6th best. End result is the same you are getting 2 top 6 forwards +++ for 1. The Jets needs defensively are clear they need 3 NHL quality top D men. Morrissey is one, Pionk can fill another but beyond that there is no one better than Chiarot, Kulak or Mete. If there was the Jets would be considered cup contenders instead of just a playoff team. They have scoring and great goaltending but lack 2 top 4 D men. All of the pundits have pointed to the D as one of the main concerns headed into next season. So claim what you want but the D is still what is holding the Jets out of contention.
I cannot believe that you are actually suggesting that the equivalent of 3 1sts 3 2nds and a 3rd is a low ball offer. Danaults value resigned has been suggested by others on here as being 1st + 2nd + 3rd. Caufield and Struble could also get a 1st and Fleury we will call a 2nd right now. This is why this thread was created is because you seem to have an illusion that Laine is worth every top pick and prospect that any team has. Sure he is good maybe even elite but you are not getting the type of return you think you are IF he is traded.
First off any of the Montreal forwards would be the Jets 6th best forward. Scheifele, Wheeler, Connor, Ehlers and Stastny all play in front of Danault and Tatar, no question as Danault is good defensively but marginal offensively and Tatar is meh.
Chiarot, Kulak and Mete are all bottom pairing guys and can easily be found as a UFA or on waivers, so they don't have a lot of value. Danault is worth nowhere near a first second and third, he's a rental that doesn't want to re-sign in Montreal. He won't get half that. Remember what you thought Domi was worth. A Domi like return is a far more likely return for Danault.
This is how obviously biased you are. Somehow Danault as a 27 great old rental is worth a first, second and third but Laine is only worth a 27 year old rental, a 30 year old rental and a meh prospect Winnipeg doesn't need. How is Danault worth more than Laine?
You or no one has ever offered 3 firsts, 3 seconds and a third or the equivalent. So you once assign resort to exaggerating because you cannot formulate a believable rebuttal.
Your offer above was:
Danault, Montreal's 27 year old 3C after being passed by 2 rookies and now wants out. He'd be okay to have, but not worth giving up Laine to bring in a 3C for a year.
Tatar a 30 year old rental already in decline. Not needed or wanted, I'd rather give the minutes to someone with higher upside like Roslovic.
Struble, Fleury - meh defense prospects that Winnipeg and every dream has.
That's why threads like this exist. Fans like yourself have convinced yourself that the Jets are screwed and are going to have to give away Laine for half his value at best and get upset when unbiased posters point out that your assumptions are incorrect. Winnipeg has no need to move Laine now unless the get exactly what they want, whether you like it or not.
I have no expectations of what Laine will return in a trade as I have said many times as I doubt Chevy moves Laine until the very last minute 2 or 3 years from now and only if absolutely necessary.
I'm just stating that Chevy has no need or is under no pressure to move Laine anytime soon. The only thing IMO that will make Chevy act is someone agreeing to his asking price.