Laine is overrated. His overall game has improved a lot but he's not even close to a franchise caliber player, let's stop treating him like he's the second coming of Jesus and the best invention since sliced bread

i personally like their left side with Morrissey, Heinola and Samberg. But their right side could use some work. Sanheim plays both sides and Myers plays the right side. I see so many Jets fans complain that their entire Dcorps is a bunch of small guys besides Samberg, Sanheim/Myers would also add to that with their size

You are not writing a school paper. The only thing that doesn't fit is this Methodology mantra

I honestly think the endless debate about Laine on here is just a huge misunderstanding that doesn't really get addressed lol. Jets fans following the Laine rumors know that he doesn't need to be moved asap, and that the rumors likely stem from Cheveldayoff just seeing Laine's worth on the market like three months ago. All this nonsense of Laine not wanting to sign in Winnipeg and that he's going to refuse to report to training camp are baseless. The Finnish articles people often cite about Laine's unhappiness literally came out before he signed his current contract, so the idea of Laine refusing to sign out of unhappiness are completely false. Laine doesn't NEED to be moved, so he likely won't, unless a deal impossible to refuse comes along.

Other teams see the rumors and offer a fair deal, and that's totally fair. Sanheim, Frost and a 1st/2nd is probably fair value for Laine, but the idea isn't about getting fair value. The only scenario where Laine is traded is if the pieces coming back definitively make the team better NOW. That would require teams to overpay, and that's most likely why Laine wasn't traded at the peak of the rumors during the draft.

And if he gets traded, it will be a lost trade. Thinking of trading in a vacuum doesn't make sense. Fair trading isn't a thing

i dont know if its just me but ive noticed BCarlo25, DieHardRedWingsFan58 and WindJammer are basically the same guy cheering for different teams. They never post AGMs but always come attacking trades.

lol that diehardredwings fan i saw the nonsense he posted today.

Your second paragraph sums it up perfectly, Laine is a talent that isn't likely to fall in the Jets laps for a long time, trading him away for some good but not great players would be a terribly bad move.
I see most of the Philly trades on here like Sanheim, Frost or Farabee, 1st and I guess that's fair value but idk, just always leaves me saying 'meh, no point in trading Laine for that.

I see it all the time on here like they can Just sign say Hoffman to replace Laine like it's so simple.

The smallest market team in the league should be doing whatever it takes to sign the biggest star it has to a long term deal.

He's the closest thing to a franchise player the Jets are going to get.

I hope you know @csick is basically unanimously known for being the best ACGM on this site.

oH bUt hEs a 60 GoAlsCoReR

Sometimes I troll tho for fun, my bad. There’s many good posters on here tho.

Who doesn't? Haha. I do a lot of the time especially on my other acct

No those are good fits, although like @arafay said I would prefer an RD like Myers. It's usually the piece you offer for the top 6 is someone like Patrick, who has very little value.

Even someone like Myers though has only played 70 games in the NHL, so calling him a legit top 4D is very misleading. You want the Jets to give away a sure thing, that has done more than any player the Jets receive back. In other words Winnipeg has to take all the risk while Philly takes very little.

Why should Winnipeg take all the risk when they don't have to a trade and can just wait until they get what they want?

I know it's not what you want to hear, but Winnipeg is under no pressure to move Laine.

Lol. Don't forget @Campabee was telling everyone that Domi was worth a top 10 first + Laine + Ehlers... and look how that turned out.

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And you wanna trade Laine as a 50-60 goal scorer instead of a 30-35 goal scorer.

No. We don't want to trade him as anything. You're asking for him. Big difference. The Jets can ask whatever they want when you ask for him, if you don't like it, you're free to move along to the next 22 year old that has 138 goals in his career so far.

They'd want probably a *more* established young guy back, someone who's had a little more success at the NHL level thus far, like Laine has. Like Konecny? I don't know what the difference to balance out a deal between those two would be (because while I think straight up Laine is better than Konecny, but Konecny at $5.5 for 5 more years may be worth more than Laine with his current contract situation).
The other guy the Jets would want would be Provorov, but even I'm not moronic enough to think PHI would want to deal him for Laine (or anything, really). I'm sure most PHI fans would agree that he's untouchable.

Not only is it enough but it’s a package with thought. Checks the boxes and the value is there.

is this higher in value than the lindros trade?

for reference, it was steve duchense, peter forsberg (still a prospect), ron hextall, kerry huffman, mike ricci, chris simon, their 1993 1st, their 1994 1st and 15 million dollars.

To be fair i don’t do that as well.. the second we trade Laine we lose

The 1st would be 20-30, low value in this trade tbh
Frost is too much of a risk for what we’re giving up
Sanheim is obviously the main piece but with Heinola and Samberg coming up it’s not worth

When Did I ever say that? I did say he was worth a 5-10 pick for sure. I did include him in some Laine and Ehlers trade proposals. BUT NEVER did I say that Domi was worth a top 10 pick + Laine + Ehlers. Just like most of your posts you once again don't know what your talking about LMAO! BTW just cause MB is a moron who likes to sell players for less than their actual value after publically dragging them through the mud that does not mean that is what those players are actually worth. Do you seriously think that PK at the time of the trade was only worth an aging star player? Or how about Patches a multi 30 goal scorer was only worth a 1st + A prospect + A throw away Tatar (at the time)? No if MB had done his job properly he should have got a 1st + A+prospect (Like Sandhiem) for PK and Patches should have gotten 1st + Glass + Suzuki and IF Vegas wanted to throw in Tatar as well we could have added a 4th. Cause let's face it in both those trades we gave up the best player for pennies on the dollar. The ONLY way Montreal wins the Domi Trade is IF Anderson has a bounce back year. Domi is going to put up 60+ points as the Blue Jackets 2C. They basically stole him from MB like the Lightening stole Sergachev.

I'm pretty sure you said it in the sane thread where I supposedly said that Laine was worth McDavid plus. If you can exaggerate and outright lie why can't everybody?

Whatever you say buddy, you can't even support your lies and half truths so why should anyone take you seriously? I admitted to saying Domi was worth a top 10 1st. In fact I still stand by that. You admitting that you said Laine was worth McDavid + proves I didn't lie as well. So say what you want about me, cause you just proved that you are the liar and I am not. Thank you so much for that!