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Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2020-21 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 31 oct. 2020
Publié: 31 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Brink, Bobby [Liste de réserve]
  2. Foerster, Tyson
  3. Frost, Morgan
  4. Myers, Philippe [Droits de RFA]
  5. O'Brien, Jay [Liste de réserve]
  6. Ratcliffe, Isaac
  7. Sanheim, Travis
  8. York, Cam [Liste de réserve]
  9. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
  10. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (PHI)
  11. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 23
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Moronic proposal as usual by @csick.
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 23
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hahahahah
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 25
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hahahahah


I bet you he’ll say not enough quality for Laine
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 26
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Basically what Laine fans think he’s worth
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 27
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Basically what Laine fans think he’s worth


I offered Sanheim + Frost and a 1st which I think is fair value and they all say it’s not close to enough lol
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 29
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Quoting: csick
I offered Sanheim + Frost and a 1st which I think is fair value and they all say it’s not close to enough lol


They think he’s the love child of Ovi and McDavid. I’m a jets fan but Laine is overrated, I’d prefer Myers instead tho.
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 30
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this is how you win an argument
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 34
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I offered Sanheim + Frost and a 1st which I think is fair value and they all say it’s not close to enough lol


I would think that’s fair but you generally offer sanheim/myers + farabee/frost/1st

In fact I do not remember a single time when you offered frost, sanheim, and a 1st, though I may be wrong.
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 34
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Quoting: csick
I bet you he’ll say not enough quality for Laine


Whats funny is that he's never created a single AGM so we don't know how he values Laine
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 35
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Quoting: bnormie46
They think he’s the love child of Ovi and McDavid. I’m a jets fan but Laine is overrated, I’d prefer Myers instead tho.


Myers and Sanheim are legit top 4 guys with huge upside. Farabee has top line potential imo and Frost will be a good 2C
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 36
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this is how you win an argument


That’s how u win an argument.. on Halloween Night 😈👻
31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 40
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Incoming "what motivation do the jets have to do this" 😝
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 42
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Incoming "what motivation do the jets have to do this" 😝


Looooooool
31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 44
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Quoting: arafay
I would think that’s fair but you generally offer sanheim/myers + farabee/frost/1st

In fact I do not remember a single time when you offered frost, sanheim, and a 1st, though I may be wrong.


You are exactly correct. He'll offer two of the 3 pieces, but he has never offered a third quality piece, like he says he has, unless he it's offering something like Patrick, who has almost no value.
31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 45
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I would think that’s fair but you generally offer sanheim/myers + farabee/frost/1st

In fact I do not remember a single time when you offered frost, sanheim, and a 1st, though I may be wrong.


The most I’ve ever offered was Sanheim + Frost + 2nd. Upgrading 2nd to a 1st is something that isn’t a huge dealbreaker imo
31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 45
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Quoting: csick
I offered Sanheim + Frost and a 1st which I think is fair value and they all say it’s not close to enough lol


This is reasonable. But Frost just isn't necessary with Perfetti coming up now.
Sanheim would also be good, but would cause problems with the expansion coming up.
While it's fair value, I don't think it's worth it from the WPG side (I would've thought differently pre-draft, however)
31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 46
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Ah but the NHL just introduced that new rule that when Laine scores each goal counts as 3 goals
31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 47
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Quoting: hwjw
This is reasonable. But Frost just isn't necessary with Perfetti coming up now.
Sanheim would also be good, but would cause problems with the expansion coming up.
While it's fair value, I don't think it's worth it from the WPG side (I would've thought differently pre-draft, however)


What would u want for Laine then if it’s not futures or established young NHL guys?
31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 47
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Whats funny is that he's never created a single AGM so we don't know how he values Laine


He never would, he doesn't know how to use the site, but to trash Laine offers. zzzzzzz
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 50
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Quoting: csick
Myers and Sanheim are legit top 4 guys with huge upside. Farabee has top line potential imo and Frost will be a good 2C


In theory, that first should be awfully late, I’m all for sanheim/Myers, but most jets fans don’t know the frost/farabee/Patrick potential. So torn about losing there FRANCHISE SAVIOUR for potential. Still think there’s a bogosian/Kane type deal a brewing pre expansion draft. Just not sure on who is going to need a forward and defenseman room to protect. Upgrade of protection spots for some exempt pieces, possibly a pick and hopefully something to add to morrissey and pionk being protected
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 52
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The most I’ve ever offered was Sanheim + Frost + 2nd. Upgrading 2nd to a 1st is something that isn’t a huge dealbreaker imo


Honestly, I wouldn’t take that offer (also no conditions cause I would want a first in that package for sure). Not because it’s not enough value, but because what @hwjw said above. I’m not worried about the expansion draft but I don’t necessarily want another ld like sanheim for laine. I know he can play the right side but I prefer right handed like myers (but with more offense). Additionally, i would want foerster or farabee not frost, just because we are pretty set at c with perfetti and many others coming up

That said, even if you offered what I wanted, I would try to sign laine no matter the cost first. Getting talent like that in Winnipeg outside the draft or trade is virtually impossible. We need to keep him
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 57
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Honestly, I wouldn’t take that offer (also no conditions cause I would want a first in that package for sure). Not because it’s not enough value, but because what @hwjw said above. I’m not worried about the expansion draft but I don’t necessarily want another ld like sanheim for laine. I know he can play the right side but I prefer right handed like myers (but with more offense). Additionally, i would want foerster or farabee not frost, just because we are pretty set at c with perfetti and many others coming up


I agree. I think a lot of people here get confused between value and team needs or fit. Most of the deals we see here are usually a poor fit for the Jets need or position wise, so Jets fans say no. Then the whining starts because opposing fans construe "it doesn't fit team needs" with "that offer is crap". Then it becomes, "Jet fans think Laine is worth 7 firsts". Derp. Derp.
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31 oct. 2020 à 19 h 59
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I agree. I think a lot of people here get confused between value and team needs or fit. Most of the deals we see here are usually a poor fit for the Jets need or position wise, so Jets fans say no. Then the whining starts because opposing fans construe "it doesn't fit team needs" with "that offer is crap". Then it becomes, "Jet fans think Laine is worth 7 firsts". Derp. Derp.


Your defence sucks. How does a Laine replacement in the top 6 plus a top 4D with both pieces still young not an ideal fit for the Jets. So Sanheim or Myers isn’t a good fit? How does that make sense
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31 oct. 2020 à 20 h 4
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@click @WINDJAMMER thinks Laine is worth McDavid + MacKinnon + Crosby + Ovechkin + Kutcherov + Point + Makar + Q. Hughes + 5 1st's
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31 oct. 2020 à 20 h 6
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Your defence sucks. How does a Laine replacement in the top 6 plus a top 4D with both pieces still young not an ideal fit for the Jets. So Sanheim or Myers isn’t a good fit? How does that make sense


Cmon the Jets have so many great young D coming up..wait..darn
 
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