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Are these fair trades to everyone

Créé par: HatterTParty
Équipe: 2020-21 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 29 oct. 2020
Publié: 30 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Again, for everyone who says “it won’t happen,” is this fair? That is all, is it fair. Everyone be civil and don’t disrespect anybody in my threads.

Chicago, Calgary, and philly is a three way trade. Calgary gets Kane, philly gets Gaudreau, hawks get (from Calgary) Valimaki, a 1st (lottery protected) and a 3rd, and (from Philly) Frost, Raffl, and a 2nd.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Gaudreau, Johnny
  2. Välimäki, Juuso
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
2.
CHI
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel
  2. Kravtsov, Vitali
  3. Smith, Brendan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Toews, Jonathan (3 000 000 $ retained)
3.
CHI
  1. Frost, Morgan
  2. Raffl, Michael
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2021
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2681 500 000 $64 856 313 $1 090 244 $6 325 000 $16 643 687 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 700 000 $3 700 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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562 500 $562 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 538 462 $5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 3
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 3
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4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
DG/DD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
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725 000 $725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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30 oct. 2020 à 5 h 16
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
What makes you think that? I'm just being realistic and modest. Everyone thought we we're going to beat the Hurricanes and I tried to tell people about our defensive issues. No one listened. This defense is even worse than last years. I strongly disagree we'll be good. Look at the 2019 Jets for example. They got the 10th pick with a similar roster but more seasoned players.


I see the Rangers as a team that has the pieces to contend even as quickly as next year, it just depends how the prospects adjust to the NHL. Also if Trouba can rebound
30 oct. 2020 à 5 h 21
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
Kane actually had the 55 points in 47 games in his 6th season. Also Gaudreau is a couple years older in his 6th NHL season as Kane was in his 6th NHL season.

Truthfully, I don't think that linearly comparing their production to date and predicting the future based on their careers is an accurate way of measuring value because part of what made Kane an elite player was how he's elevated his game later in his career.

I like Gaudreau and don't really see the point of this trade for Calgary but I doubt he has the second half of his career like Kane.


My mistake, it was Kane's 5th season where he paced about the same as Gaudreau did this year. Im not trying to predict Gaudreau's future though. Im saying it's totally normal to have 1 really bad year. It is very likely Gaudreau bounces back to his average ppg pace.
30 oct. 2020 à 5 h 58
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
I see the Rangers as a team that has the pieces to contend even as quickly as next year, it just depends how the prospects adjust to the NHL. Also if Trouba can rebound


Alexis Lafreniere is the only prospect expected to be on the opening night roster.
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30 oct. 2020 à 7 h 47
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Quoting: JToller1
This is CapFriendly. No matter how much you try everyone berates you for existing.

But regarding the trades, Calgary's 1st round pick should be conditional (if those still exist due to the new CBA), whereas if Calgary misses the 2021 playoffs, they have the option to keep their 2021 1st and give up a 2022 1st.
Chicago might want a bit more of a return for Toews and Gaudreau.


That shouldn't be the case and we can do better
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30 oct. 2020 à 10 h 57
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Quoting: HatterTParty
What do think, take out the 3rd?


Hehe - cute!
30 oct. 2020 à 12 h 15
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Hehe - cute!


That’s not a response. Speak with some logic and explain your argument.
30 oct. 2020 à 19 h 11
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
My mistake, it was Kane's 5th season where he paced about the same as Gaudreau did this year. Im not trying to predict Gaudreau's future though. Im saying it's totally normal to have 1 really bad year. It is very likely Gaudreau bounces back to his average ppg pace.


I feel that. Gaudreau is a stud, don’t get me wrong. Just think that he’ll be getting older by the time the Hawks start to compete again
30 oct. 2020 à 19 h 17
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Quoting: Breadmanhawks
I feel that. Gaudreau is a stud, don’t get me wrong. Just think that he’ll be getting older by the time the Hawks start to compete again


For sure, he makes little sense for the hawks. But the upgrade from Gaudreau to Kane is not at all worth it in this trade for the Flames
30 oct. 2020 à 19 h 18
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
For sure, he makes little sense for the hawks. But the upgrade from Gaudreau to Kane is not at all worth it in this trade for the Flames


The problem is that Kane isn’t really a fit for any team because no one wants to pay what the Hawks want because we don’t want to trade him
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