3 way blockbuster everyone wins i think

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Créé par: Leafs4life34

Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 27 oct. 2020

Publié: 27 oct. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

ARI - Saves money
CAR - gets elite winger and gets starting goalie
TOR - gets better defence

ARI gets:
saves 6M in salary
gets 1st and 2nd

ARI loses:
Phil at 35% - 1.75M salary retained
Kuemper

CAR gets:
Kuemper - elite starting goalie
Marner - elite winger
Phil - at 4.4M

CAR loses:
Phil - Retains 1M
Reimer - cap dump
Pesce - top 4 defender
Necas - top 6 forward
Niederreiter - cap dump
2021 1st - pick 24 - 28
2021 2nd

TOR gets:
Phil at 3.4M
Pesce
Necas
Niederreiter - cap dump

TOR loses:
Marner - elite winger

Transactions

TOR

Necas, Martin
Niederreiter, Nino
Pesce, Brett
Reimer, James
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CAR)

CAR

Marner, Mitchell

TOR

Kessel, Phil (3 400 000 $ retained)
Kuemper, Darcy

Détails additionnels:

1M retained by CAR
2.4M retained by ARI

ARI

Reimer, James
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CAR)

TOR

free

MIN

Holl, Justin

TOR

CAR

Kuemper, Darcy

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Enfoui

Pierre Engvall: 175 000 $ (1 250 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	80 785 074 $	0 $	537 500 $	714 926 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 4	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 4
Niederreiter, Nino 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 5	Necas, Martin 863 333 $863 333 $ (537 500 $$538K) AD RFA - 2
Mikheyev, Ilya 1 645 000 $1 645 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 3	Kessel, Phil 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2
Simmonds, Wayne 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG NTC UFA - 1	Thornton, Joe 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 1
		Spezza, Jason 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Brodie, TJ 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD NMC UFA - 4	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 4	Pesce, Brett 4 025 000 $4 025 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Campbell, Jack 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ G UFA - 2
Lehtonen, Mikko 925 000 $925 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Bogosian, Zach 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Dermott, Travis 874 125 $874 125 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
Vesey, Jimmy 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Matthews, A.		Tavares, J.		Kessel, P.
	Nylander, W.		Rielly, M.

Avantage numérique 2
Kerfoot, A.		Necas, M.		Hyman, Z.
	Niederreiter, N.		Lehtonen, M.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Kerfoot, A.	Niederreiter, N.
	Muzzin, J.	Pesce, B.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Necas, M.	Hyman, Z.
	Rielly, M.	Brodie, T.

27 oct. 2020 à 22 h 19

Kotkaniemi15

Former Hockey Fan

Rejoint: juin 2017

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How is Marner an “elite winger” but Kuemper is just a “starting goalie”?

27 oct. 2020 à 22 h 24

KakkoForMauriceRichardAward

Brace for the Storm

Rejoint: mai 2017

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CAR easily declines, you severely underrate Necas right now and his potential

27 oct. 2020 à 22 h 26

CanesTings

Rejoint: août 2020

Messages: 193

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No thanks, losing way too much and don’t want that Marner contract

27 oct. 2020 à 22 h 41

PGHBOB69

Rejoint: oct. 2020

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Marner’a deal is gonna be hard to move without Retaining money. It’s so signing bonus heavy too. For example. You now just cap strapped Carolina. You traded them 1 Skater for 3 and they lose 1M In cap room and have to replace 2 skaters now. And Nino’s contract is up after next year. And Reimer is on an expiring contract and at a good cap number at 3M for a starting goalie.

And The leafs are already retaining salary on Kessel. I’m not sure how that would work.

27 oct. 2020 à 23 h 5

jmac490

Rejoint: janv. 2017

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This deal is illegal anyways because the Leafs are already retaining 1.2 M on Kessel from the Pittsburgh trade where they acquired Kappy. So because they are retaining salary I don't believe that Toronto can reacquire Kessel

27 oct. 2020 à 23 h 6

Radu47

Vegan Commie Hipster

Rejoint: oct. 2020

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Man this post is at very least an incredibly well done attempt at something very tricky and people are just being their myopic cynical brusque selves as usual

Anyone commenting should take at least a minute to appreciate how well crafted this is especially due to complexity, how thoughtful and nuanced it is

Thank you for this interesting, cogent, worthwhile AGM and apologies for the peanut gallery here that have gone stale... all cynicism and no soul

EDIT

"No hustle either, skip." that's right darryl ⚾️

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27 oct. 2020 à 23 h 8

Radu47

Vegan Commie Hipster

Rejoint: oct. 2020

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Quoting: Kotkaniemi15

How is Marner an “elite winger” but Kuemper is just a “starting goalie”?

Kuemps listed as elite later on

Maybe in the ocean of nuances here, while trying to craft something complex to a point of being overwhelming, they missed a single minor one

🙄

27 oct. 2020 à 23 h 12

Radu47

Vegan Commie Hipster

Rejoint: oct. 2020

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Quoting: Penguins21

After a decade of struggling mightily to score they're likely okay with tradeoffs to acquire a 90 point per year winger, they can just unload Martinook types

No easier time to acquire league minimum talent

Valid to bring up but I reckon they can make it work

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27 oct. 2020 à 23 h 15

Radu47

Vegan Commie Hipster

Rejoint: oct. 2020

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Love the minor nuances of Phil returning briefly to Tornto to fight St*ve Simm*ns to the death (he'll win easily) and the Corsi master going to the Corsi gm

PS

A team acquiring a player they're still retaining on 😅

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27 oct. 2020 à 23 h 19

#10

PGHBOB69

Rejoint: oct. 2020

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Quoting: Radu47

Maybe u, and most fans don’t value 3rd-4th line players as much as a goal-scorer. But I assure you NHL teams, NHL GM’s, and NHL coaches do. And Carolina has Aho, and Scechenkov. I don’t think scoring is their problem.

Especially a goal scorer making 11M/year for the next 5-6 years.

It’s why Toronto is in a bad spot. Paying 42M out of 81M on 4 players(not including a D or goalie either). Have to pay 40M to the other 16-19 players on their roster.

27 oct. 2020 à 23 h 20

#11

Radu47

Vegan Commie Hipster

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Pardon all the comments but this is effing impressive lol it genuinely makes full sense for each team and I love what it does to Toronto's lineup especially

This should go in the AGM hall of fame 🏆

Now to make it happen irl 🤔

27 oct. 2020 à 23 h 22

#12

JaredOfLondon

Rejoint: mai 2019

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Quoting: jmac490

there is no rule against re-attaining a player you are retaining salary on

27 oct. 2020 à 23 h 56

#13

Boggsauce

Jets Fan

Rejoint: nov. 2018

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Quoting: JaredOfLondon

there is no rule against re-attaining a player you are retaining salary on

But there is a rule that only 2 teams can retain salary, not 3

28 oct. 2020 à 0 h 26

#14

etpeck

Rejoint: août 2020

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This is not a good deal for the canes it ruins their cap structure entirely. I’d rather keep necas and pesce along with all of the other pieces. The canes depth is one of their best strengths and this deal destroys it for them

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