Insane Dumba and doughty are on this

And ekblad and trouba..

Letang is better defensively than a lot of this list

Muzzin got snubbed hard

He's a defensive defenseman maybe, but he was also on pace for 36 points, so he's no slouch offensively either

He's arguably the leafs' best defenceman by a mile and a half, he's an absolute workhorse

Hanifin

What bout him?

should also not be on this list

I agree but a lot of people are high on him so I just never was truly sure if I was missing something

Ellis + Ekholm

John Carlson?? Cale Makar?? Theodore?? What is going on?

No Klefbom? He’s very good at almost every facet of the game and apparently very underrated

Didn't want to say it since I like not reminding myself him being out for the season is a big blow but...yeah, like 5th most minutes per night in the league last season, consistent .5 ppg, and quite reliable in his own end. He's gotta be at least 25th based on the last few seasons.

There's some questionable picks here.

I came here looking for Ryan Pulock and I got what I wanted, good day sir

People are only high on him because he was picked 5th overall and could hide in Carolina. He gets the job done but doesn't make your eyes pop. Still can hit his ceiling though

Defensive defensemen catagory

How are they not all-rounded? PK, PP, 23+ mins a night, 40+ points

I understand every fan wants their player to make lists but the world doesn't work that way. Didn't make my list...

If you think Edler is a better all-around defenseman than Ellis and Ekholm then I don't think you watch much hockey. And it's not a NSH-fan thing, they are objectively better than players on this list.

It's your list, that's fair. It's just not a very good one.