Quoting: Wqrrior
I kinda agree but mostly dont.
Bill Peters, Montgomery and Babcock were some of many coaches who got into abrasive incidents. Their exposal was shame on them and their reputations, but they admitted to their wrongs - mostly which was separated by some length of time and, now they all have jobs again. For me, that's a good on them. They saw what they did wrong, were humiliated for it, and reformed. They all know that if they ever do anything remotely similar again, they're done.
In this case, it's seriously messed up what happened. But honestly how frequently does / did stuff like this happen in schools. Just because this guy has achieved something in life doesn't make him any different from any other changed individuals. Teens act mindlessly and with time and experience come to see their stupidity. I'm not sure about this guy if he has rounded the corner yet - I'm not too sure how legitimate his apology is - that also will be revealed with time. However, this public shaming is a lot of pressure on someone of this age. Imagine seeing one of your dumb actions being broadcast everywhere. It's shameful. Unless you are a seriously messed up person who doesn't see fault in their wrongs, they will change.
Nothing will repay the mental damage that has happened to the victor, however I think there is a fine line between excessive punishment and proper punishment. The goal isn't to ruin two peoples lives, it is to teach a lesson. Why destroy a 20 year career over these actions (potentially damaging, causing him to act more stupidly) when you can handle it other ways.
This guy is bound to get paid, perhaps some of that money goes back to the family. There's all sorts of better ways this can go. Destroying a career and life goal is not the way around it.
Quoting: papishark
While this was awful, the guy was 14. I had bullies when I was 14 but I wouldnt wish to ruin their entire lives if they wanted to change. People were more willing to give Voynov a pass for beating his wife than this guy being stupid in 8th grade.
Quoting: TheFlamingC
What he did was awful but if you fired everyone for the worst thing they'd ever done, most people wouldn't have jobs. Granted, the worst thing most people have done isn't as bad as smashing a disabled kids head into a wall but we also don't know how that truly happened. You hear the story but you didn't experience it (not saying what he did was good, it was awful anyway you slice it but it may not be as bad as perceived. Although that is highly unlikely it is still a possibility). He should be punished, but I think he should still get an NHL opportunity if he can prove he has changed. 4 years wasn't too long ago so he'd have to do something significant to prove himself
Quoting: TheFlamingC
What he did was awful but if you fired everyone for the worst thing they'd ever done, most people wouldn't have jobs. Granted, the worst thing most people have done isn't as bad as smashing a disabled kids head into a wall but we also don't know how that truly happened. You hear the story but you didn't experience it (not saying what he did was good, it was awful anyway you slice it but it may not be as bad as perceived. Although that is highly unlikely it is still a possibility). He should be punished, but I think he should still get an NHL opportunity if he can prove he has changed. 4 years wasn't too long ago so he'd have to do something significant to prove himself
Counterpoint: He's a psychopath who never apologized and doesn't deserve the riches that come with an NHL career.
There's bullying and then there's what this kid did. The fact you're being so light about it is concerning.
Here are a couple of paragraphs from the most recent article bringing light to this (
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nhl/coyotes/2020/10/26/arizona-coyotes-top-draft-pick-bullied-black-disabled-kid-4-years-ago/3735555001/):
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Isaiah Meyer-Crothers, the Black student, told The Arizona Republic that he was stunned and saddened when he learned the Coyotes earlier this month had selected Mitchell Miller, whom he grew up with in Sylvania, Ohio.
Four years ago, Miller admitted in an Ohio juvenile court to bullying Meyer-Crothers, who was tricked into licking a candy push pop that Miller and another boy had wiped in a bathroom urinal.Meyer-Crothers had to be tested for hepatitis, HIV and STDs, but the tests came back negative, according to a police report.
Meyer-Crothers, also 18 and who now lives in Detroit, said Miller had taunted him for years, constantly calling him "brownie" and the "N-word," while repeatedly hitting him while growing up in the Toledo suburb. Other students at their junior high confirmed to police that Miller repeatedly used the "N-word" in referring to Meyer-Crothers.
"He pretended to be my friend and made me do things I didn't want to do," Meyer-Crothers said in a phone interview. "In junior high, I got beat up by him. … Everyone thinks he's so cool that he gets to go to the NHL, but I don't see how someone can be cool when you pick on someone and bully someone your entire life."
Picking on someone with a disability for years isn't something that should be so easily forgiven especially when he's pretty much not even taken the first step forward on that path (apologizing).
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