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Goalie and LD to Buffalo

Créé par: spacecoyote
Publié: 24 oct. 2020 à 14 h 59
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 124/125 (99%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Coyotes de l'ArizonaCoyotes de l'Arizona

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Goligoski, AlexCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-5 431 200 $111---0000--
Stepan, DerekCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-6 448 000 $111---0000--
Kuemper, DarcyCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-4 464 000 $111-------00
Fischer, ChristianCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-992 000 $111---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Reinhart, SamSabres de BuffaloLNH-0 $111---0000--
Ristolainen, RasmusSabres de BuffaloLNH-5 356 800 $111---0000--
Hutton, CarterSabres de BuffaloLNH-2 728 000 $111-------00
Thompson, TageSabres de BuffaloLNH-1 388 800 $111---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial0 $2243683512
Variation7 861 600 $000000
Final7 861 600 $ (↑)2243683512000

Logo de Sabres de BuffaloSabres de Buffalo

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Reinhart, SamSabres de BuffaloLNH-0 $111---0000--
Ristolainen, RasmusSabres de BuffaloLNH-5 356 800 $111---0000--
Hutton, CarterSabres de BuffaloLNH-2 728 000 $111-------00
Thompson, TageSabres de BuffaloLNH-1 388 800 $111---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Goligoski, AlexCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-5 431 200 $111---0000--
Stepan, DerekCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-6 448 000 $111---0000--
Kuemper, DarcyCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-4 464 000 $111-------00
Fischer, ChristianCoyotes de l'ArizonaLNH-992 000 $111---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial13 645 833 $1937563510
Variation-7 861 600 $000000
Final5 784 233 $ (↓)1937563510000
24 oct. 2020 à 22 h 15
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Terrible trade for Buffalo, sorry.
25 oct. 2020 à 15 h 33
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After seeing Reinhart only signed for one year until he's a UFA. I probably wouldn't do it anyway. Clearly he is going to walk along with Hall or just dealt at the deadline when Buffalo is out of the playoffs again, meanwhile enjoy Hutton as your starter for another year.
25 oct. 2020 à 15 h 44
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Quoting: Tjm220
Terrible trade for Buffalo, sorry.


What on earth are you talking about?

In the Ristolainen+Hutton for Goligoski+Stepan swap you’re saving a total of about $2 million and getting the 2 better players. The Coyotes lose 2 NHLers and get some of the worst NHL players at their respective positions. Fischer for Thompson is fine.

And then you’re trading Reinhart for Kuemper (both around the same $, and both 2 years from UFA). Which is an absolute steal for the Sabres.

This is just horrid for the Coyotes.

As a fan of another Atlantic division team, thank God this isn’t happening.
25 oct. 2020 à 22 h 51
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You must be out of your mind. Reinhart a a 24-year-old 50 point a year player. Stepan and Goligoski are old, overpaid, and will be gone in a year. Plus they are cap dumps, you couldn’t try to tell me different. Stepan isn’t even the number 2 center anymore, the Sabres don’t have a spot for him. Fischer is an ok, borderline NHL player. Every team has several of those in their organization. Kuemper is a good goaltender, but he will want a huge raise after having a good season. You’re asking the Sabres to give up a first line player who is 24, a young power forward who is also 24, a capable number 2 pairing defensemen, and the one year back up goalie for that? You’re getting mostly assets that you can hang onto, the Sabres are getting mostly one year dumps.
26 oct. 2020 à 0 h 41
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You must be out of your mind. Reinhart a a 24-year-old 50 point a year player. Stepan and Goligoski are old, overpaid, and will be gone in a year. Plus they are cap dumps, you couldn’t try to tell me different. Stepan isn’t even the number 2 center anymore, the Sabres don’t have a spot for him. Fischer is an ok, borderline NHL player. Every team has several of those in their organization. Kuemper is a good goaltender, but he will want a huge raise after having a good season. You’re asking the Sabres to give up a first line player who is 24, a young power forward who is also 24, a capable number 2 pairing defensemen, and the one year back up goalie for that? You’re getting mostly assets that you can hang onto, the Sabres are getting mostly one year dumps.


Ristolainen capable? LMAO 😂

Stepan, Goligoski, Hutton, & Ristolainen are all cap dumps. If those 4 were being swapped, I’d say that benefits Buffalo greatly, but we’ll leave that alone for now.

I think we can both agree Fischer for Thompson isn’t anything egregious.

Now let’s look at just Reinhart for Kuemper. Their contract situation is about the same. They both make around the same amount of money, and both could easily be UFAs in 2 years.

Even if you’re calling Reinhart a first liner, (which I’m not sure I agree with) he’s at the lower end of first liners in the NHL. Darcy Kuemper is a top 5, and the 2nd most valuable goalie in the NHL right now. He would immediately be the 2nd best player on the Sabres if he was traded there. Sure he’s older, but good goalies tend to age well, and age definitely won’t play a factor in the next 2 years before both players could be UFA. And even if you’re thinking about 6 or 7 years down the road, (assuming that you think you would be able to keep Reinhart from walking) the difference between him and Reinhart more than makes up for the difference in age. Not to mention the value the Sabres get from Stepan/Goligoski.

And the argument that Kuemper could ask for more money at the end of the contract isn’t a reason why the Sabres wouldn’t do this. Of course, good players are going to make a lot of money, what did you expect?
26 oct. 2020 à 12 h 51
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This trade is laughable awful. Wow. As one sided as it gets.
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