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I love these trades tbh and we get 3rd center

Créé par: Sid_the_kid_875948
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 23 oct. 2020
Publié: 23 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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  1. Roslovic, Jack [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
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  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NSH)
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this might be stupid to trade him to give poulin a chance with sid, but imo this kid is going to be great (when i say kid i mean poulin)
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23 oct. 2020 à 7 h 24
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I'd rather sign Hoffman whos better than Zucker for free rather than give up a 1st
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23 oct. 2020 à 7 h 24
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a) you can't hold a 26 man roster, limited to 23
b) getting rid of Zucker is a terrible idea, guy is consistent, and will produce with Crosby at a fixed salary.
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Quoting: Jeuck75
I'd rather sign Hoffman whos better than Zucker for free rather than give up a 1st


me too but hes cheaper and is still amazing
23 oct. 2020 à 7 h 29
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Quoting: KMMHL2012
a) you can't hold a 26 man roster, limited to 23
b) getting rid of Zucker is a terrible idea, guy is consistent, and will produce with Crosby at a fixed salary.


like i said it was stupid but worth it imo
23 oct. 2020 à 7 h 36
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me too but hes cheaper and is still amazing


He's not amazing he's good. He's a 500,000 cheaper, or a 1mill cheaper. I'd rather get the way better player in Hoffman
23 oct. 2020 à 7 h 42
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Quoting: Jeuck75
He's not amazing he's good. He's a 500,000 cheaper, or a 1mill cheaper. I'd rather get the way better player in Hoffman


"way better"? hoffman is amazing just like zucker and you said he'll make 6-7 mil
23 oct. 2020 à 7 h 44
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"way better"? hoffman is amazing just like zucker and you said he'll make 6-7 mil


Hoffman said he'd take 5.5 to 6.5. And YES Hoffman is betetr than Zucker, and its not close. Hoffman is really good and Zucker is good
23 oct. 2020 à 7 h 45
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Why do you suggest Sam P will be amazing and also able to play 1LW asap: his junior scoring rates so far have just been good & he's yet to hit 100 pts in the Q
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23 oct. 2020 à 8 h 24
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Hoffman said he'd take 5.5 to 6.5. And YES Hoffman is betetr than Zucker, and its not close. Hoffman is really good and Zucker is good


Hoffman is a sniper and nothing more. Whisch has value overall don't get me wrong. But I'll take Zucker over him all day
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23 oct. 2020 à 8 h 25
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Why do you suggest Sam P will be amazing and also able to play 1LW asap: his junior scoring rates so far have just been good & he's yet to hit 100 pts in the Q


Agree its too much to expect that Poulin could perform on 1st line duties on a team that needs to win yesterday
23 oct. 2020 à 8 h 28
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Hoffman is a sniper and nothing more. Whisch has value overall don't get me wrong. But I'll take Zucker over him all day


I'll let the stats do the talking:

https://www.nhl.com/player/mike-hoffman-8474884

https://www.nhl.com/player/jason-zucker-8475722

Zucker also played with Crosby making him look better
23 oct. 2020 à 8 h 34
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Quoting: Jeuck75
I'll let the stats do the talking:

https://www.nhl.com/player/mike-hoffman-8474884

https://www.nhl.com/player/jason-zucker-8475722

Zucker also played with Crosby making him look better


For a few games sure. Otherwise on a weak Wild team. Hoff likely played with huberdeau barkov last couple years and karlsson and stone before that. Cant drive play as well. And is a few years older
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23 oct. 2020 à 9 h 30
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Quoting: Jeuck75
I'll let the stats do the talking:

https://www.nhl.com/player/mike-hoffman-8474884

https://www.nhl.com/player/jason-zucker-8475722

Zucker also played with Crosby making him look better


Of Hoffman’s 59 points in 2019-20, 21 were on the powerplay. That’s 36%. Over 1/3. Take away the powerplay where most of his elite shooting comes from and he isn’t much good offensively. If you look at heat maps he literally shoots from the exact same spot every time.
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23 oct. 2020 à 9 h 35
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Of Hoffman’s 59 points in 2019-20, 21 were on the powerplay. That’s 36%. Over 1/3. Take away the powerplay where most of his elite shooting comes from and he isn’t much good offensively. If you look at heat maps he literally shoots from the exact same spot every time.


Ovi shoots from the same exact spot (almost) and he's considered one of if not the best goal scorer of all time
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23 oct. 2020 à 9 h 59
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Ovi shoots from the same exact spot (almost) and he's considered one of if not the best goal scorer of all time

Prime Ovi didn’t shoot from just one stop. Ovi today mainly does yea but he also has a much better shoot than Hoffman and is better all around the ice then a guy like Hoffman.
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23 oct. 2020 à 10 h 9
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Ovi shoots from the same exact spot (almost) and he's considered one of if not the best goal scorer of all time


comparing Ovi to Hoffman is quite the hill to die on, considering Ovi actually scores from the same spot at a 40-50 goal per season pace whereas Hoffman doesn't.

unless your point was "shooting" and not "scoring".. but that doesn't lend any weight to a statement, bringing to question, why say it?
23 oct. 2020 à 10 h 22
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comparing Ovi to Hoffman is quite the hill to die on, considering Ovi actually scores from the same spot at a 40-50 goal per season pace whereas Hoffman doesn't.

unless your point was "shooting" and not "scoring".. but that doesn't lend any weight to a statement, bringing to question, why say it?


They said (and I quote) "If you look at heat maps he literally shoots from the exact same spot every time". So I compared it to Ovi
23 oct. 2020 à 10 h 32
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They said (and I quote) "If you look at heat maps he literally shoots from the exact same spot every time". So I compared it to Ovi


so your comparison is he shoots from the same spot with significantly less efficiency or accuracy.

quality contribution right there!

Hoffman is a one dimensional player....
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And u are using a lower year for Zucker and 15 games between Malkin and a Crosby line. And on the Malkin line was horrible(no goals, and I think zero points too). why I want to scream when people on here want to put Guentzel on the 1st line and break-up a great line in Guentzel/Malkin/Rust. But anyways, your comparison would probably be better using both of their best years. Saying this is the best they proved they can do. And I’m sure Hoffman’s best year is still a lot above Zuckers in terms of scoring. And if Hoffman’s best year was last. I would say The “Zucker case” might have a Actually have a case then. Cause you don’t want to buy high in/on anything.
23 oct. 2020 à 16 h 10
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Hoffman said he'd take 5.5 to 6.5. And YES Hoffman is betetr than Zucker, and its not close. Hoffman is really good and Zucker is good


so how does that make hoffman "WAY better"
 
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