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NY Barzal - Haha Lou - updated

Créé par: PeterK
Date de création initiale: oct 22, 2020
Publié: 22 oct 2020 à 12 h 12
Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Explications
The Barzal offer sheet should happen! How awesome would that be?

The Nylander trade, never going to happen but you have to make space for Lafreniere now or in a year or two. Kreider in my opinion is the guy that will get traded in a couple years. But I know nothing. The prospect is a RD on the verge of NHL time so I think the Leafs would like him.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Barzal, Mathew310 905 000 $
Lemieux, Brendan21 400 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Greene, Andy12 400 000 $
Del Zotto, Michael1700 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Barzal, Mathew10 905 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022
Transactions
NYR
  1. 2021 2e round pick (NYR)
DET
  1. 2022 2e round pick (NYR)
  2. 2021 3e round pick (BUF)
NYR
  1. Nylander, William
TOR
  1. Lundkvist, Nils [Liste de réserve]
  2. Kreider, Chris
  3. 2023 2e round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. McIsaac, Jared
DET
  1. Strome, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Smith, Brendan
Rachats de contrats
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: 6 083 333 $
  • Henrik Lundqvist: 5 500 000 $
  • Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
  • Ryan Spooner: 300 000 $
  • Brad Richards: 0 $
  • Jack Johnson: 383 333 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
NYR
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $79 158 832 $0 $12 062 500 $2 341 168 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Barzal, Mathew
10 905 000 $
C
RFA - 3
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
NYR
Lafrenière, Alexis
925 000 $
AG
RFA - 3
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
3 250 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
NYR
Lemieux, Brendan
1 400 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
NYR
Chytil, Filip
894 166 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
NYR
Di Giuseppe, Phillip
700 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
NYR
Howden, Brett
863 333 $
C
RFA - 1
NYR
Gauthier, Julien
863 333 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Greene, Andy
2 400 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
2 425 000 $
G
RFA - 2
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
4 800 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
925 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Del Zotto, Michael
700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
NYR
Fox, Adam
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2

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22 oct 2020 à 17 h 10
#51
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Quoting: Isles777
Thorton, spezza , Simmonds 3rd line 😂 . Sounds like at best another 1st round exit


Lol this crap again? Should I counter by listing off your 4th liners and saying they will be your 3rd line because for some reason you think it's an insult? You're a disaster lol. Spezza was a 4th liner, everyone has said Simmonds is a 4th liner and combined they make significantly less than Komarov by himself. You just love shooting yourself in foot.
DartGuy86 a aimé ceci.
22 oct 2020 à 17 h 13
#52
Isles7
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Lol this crap again? Should I counter by listing off your 4th liners and saying they will be your 3rd line because for some reason you think it's an insult? You're a disaster lol. Spezza was a 4th liner, everyone has said Simmonds is a 4th liner and combined they make significantly less than Komarov by himself. You just love shooting yourself in foot.


Simmonds shouldn’t even be in the bottom 6 of a rebuilding team.
22 oct 2020 à 17 h 15
#53
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Quoting: Isles777
Early stages of rising lmao - 2 of your top 4 D are over 30 and Andersen is on the decline. Dubas went all in on the worst “grit” players in the NHL


All in? Lol 2.5 million on Bogosian and Simmonds is all in? Bogosian, Simmonds, Spezza, and Thorton make how much money? Also didn't Spezza himself out score Komarov? Playing on the 4th line? As for your defence comment, a 30 year old and 31 year who have no protection isn't a problem. And again, hilarious that of all people you mention that. The guy who has gone off the deep end to defend the pile of 30+ players on the Islanders making as much or more with more term than either Muzzin or Brodie. Do you hear yourself?
22 oct 2020 à 17 h 17
#54
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Quoting: Isles777
Simmonds shouldn’t even be in the bottom 6 of a rebuilding team.


Why because he had 2 rough seasons that were injury plagued? But again, if your ammo is chirping 4th liners you literally have nothing. Absolutely nothing. I am just waiting for you to mention Kessel or something else completely inconsequential, it would only be slightly less ridiculous
22 oct 2020 à 17 h 17
#55
Isles7
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
All in? Lol 2.5 million on Bogosian and Simmonds is all in? Bogosian, Simmonds, Spezza, and Thorton make how much money? Also didn't Spezza himself out score Komarov? Playing on the 4th line? As for your defence comment, a 30 year old and 31 year who have no protection isn't a problem. And again, hilarious that of all people you mention that. The guy who has gone off the deep end to defend the pile of 30+ players on the Islanders making as much or more with more term than either Muzzin or Brodie. Do you hear yourself?


Know your team. Both muzzin and Brodie have trade protection for all 4 years of their contracts
22 oct 2020 à 17 h 19
#56
Isles7
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Why because he had 2 rough seasons that were injury plagued? But again, if your ammo is chirping 4th liners you literally have nothing. Absolutely nothing. I am just waiting for you to mention Kessel or something else completely inconsequential, it would only be slightly less ridiculous


This is a crucial year for the leafs. They need to make a deep run or they will have to retool. Dubas should have went after gritty players that are actually good! Tampa bay did it right - Coleman, goodrow , and maroon are all incredible forecheckers and great defensively. The islanders have those types of players as well. The leafs went after players that are physical but can’t play at an NHL level
22 oct 2020 à 17 h 24
#57
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Quoting: Isles777
Know your team. Both muzzin and Brodie have trade protection for all 4 years of their contracts


Both can be exposed in the expansion draft, not saying either will but both can be. Also you have completely lost this argument. Completely. As usual you won't quit because you are a bitter baby but you should. Anytime you start chirping 4th liners, two of which make the league minimum and the other 1.5 million you have nothing to say. Let me guess Dallas Cowboys, or you have won a round or whatever. The Islanders have won nothing of importance and they won't be better next year and their cap situation is exactly this for years. Move out bad deals on declining 30+ year olds and next year you get to do it all over again because half your team has 5-7 years of 5+ million for guys that will he 34-36 by the time their deals are up. But please tell me how stupid it is that Dubas signed guys for the league min. Just soundly defeated, it's just straight up stubborn pride that keeps you going.
22 oct 2020 à 17 h 28
#58
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Quoting: Isles777
This is a crucial year for the leafs. They need to make a deep run or they will have to retool. Dubas should have went after gritty players that are actually good! Tampa bay did it right - Coleman, goodrow , and maroon are all incredible forecheckers and great defensively. The islanders have those types of players as well. The leafs went after players that are physical but can’t play at an NHL level


Funny but when the Islanders were beaten by the Bolts, it was Point, Kucherov and Hedman you didn't have an answer for. Not Maroon, Coleman and Goodrow. Depth is important, no one disagrees but to think 3rd and 4th liners win you cups is literally the dumbest **** that people believe. When the Leafs go on a deep run, it won't be because Simmonds hits 5 people. It will be because Matthews is a beast. You just don't get it.
22 oct 2020 à 17 h 37
#59
Isles7
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Both can be exposed in the expansion draft, not saying either will but both can be. Also you have completely lost this argument. Completely. As usual you won't quit because you are a bitter baby but you should. Anytime you start chirping 4th liners, two of which make the league minimum and the other 1.5 million you have nothing to say. Let me guess Dallas Cowboys, or you have won a round or whatever. The Islanders have won nothing of importance and they won't be better next year and their cap situation is exactly this for years. Move out bad deals on declining 30+ year olds and next year you get to do it all over again because half your team has 5-7 years of 5+ million for guys that will he 34-36 by the time their deals are up. But please tell me how stupid it is that Dubas signed guys for the league min. Just soundly defeated, it's just straight up stubborn pride that keeps you going.


I'm not just chirping your bottom 6* players, I am calling out your top 4 D and Frederick Andersen, who always chokes in game 7's and had an awful year last season.

The homer leafs fan says the islanders aren't going to be better next season , sounds like an objective statement to me tears of joy

The islanders are adding dobson, wahlstrom and a franchise caliber goaltender, I think they'll be alright!
22 oct 2020 à 17 h 42
#60
Isles7
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Funny but when the Islanders were beaten by the Bolts, it was Point, Kucherov and Hedman you didn't have an answer for. Not Maroon, Coleman and Goodrow. Depth is important, no one disagrees but to think 3rd and 4th liners win you cups is literally the dumbest **** that people believe. When the Leafs go on a deep run, it won't be because Simmonds hits 5 people. It will be because Matthews is a beast. You just don't get it.


The lightning wouldn't have won the cup without maroon, Coleman , and Goodrow. Coleman is a fringe 1st line player who should have won the selke this season (also a great goal scorer) and maroon/goodrow are some of the best 3rd liners in the NHL. The lightning star players were obviously their best players, but every cup contender needs solid depth. Look at Pittsburgh in the years when they didn't have much success in the playoffs, it was because they didn't have good depth.
22 oct 2020 à 17 h 52
#61
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Quoting: Isles777
I'm not just chirping your bottom 6* players, I am calling out your top 4 D and Frederick Andersen, who always chokes in game 7's and had an awful year last season.

The homer leafs fan says the islanders aren't going to be better next season , sounds like an objective statement to me tears of joy

The islanders are adding dobson, wahlstrom and a franchise caliber goaltender, I think they'll be alright!


Andersen will be fine. The top 4 is fine and the top 6 is ****ing stacked. The bottom 6 has a lot more character and the defence has way more depth. Going after an outlier season from Andersen as your ammo it typical crap
22 oct 2020 à 18 h 04
#62
Isles7
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Andersen will be fine. The top 4 is fine and the top 6 is ****ing stacked. The bottom 6 has a lot more character and the defence has way more depth. Going after an outlier season from Andersen as your ammo it typical crap


The leafs could use a goalie like Ilya sorokin
23 oct 2020 à 0 h 32
#63
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Quoting: Isles777
Wrong, apparently you haven’t looked at how bonuses affect the rangers cap situation


What is a Performance Bonus?
A Performance Bonus can be given to a player in addition to their salary. Performance bonuses are only paid to the player if they meet the requirements as defined by the bonus. Performance bonuses count against the salary cap; however, a team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit. Not all players are eligible for Performance Bonuses, and to receive a bonus within their contract, a player must meet one of the following criteria:
The player is on an entry-level contract.
The player has signed a one-year contract and is over 35 years old.
The player has signed a one-year contract after returning from a long-term injury (has played 400 or more games, and spent 100 or more days on the Injured Reserve in the last year of their most recent contract).

What am I missing, obviously didn't go in depth but teams can exceed the cap with bonuses. Then they get pushed to the following year as I understood.
23 oct 2020 à 0 h 41
#64
Isles7
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Quoting: PeterK
What is a Performance Bonus?
A Performance Bonus can be given to a player in addition to their salary. Performance bonuses are only paid to the player if they meet the requirements as defined by the bonus. Performance bonuses count against the salary cap; however, a team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit. Not all players are eligible for Performance Bonuses, and to receive a bonus within their contract, a player must meet one of the following criteria:
The player is on an entry-level contract.
The player has signed a one-year contract and is over 35 years old.
The player has signed a one-year contract after returning from a long-term injury (has played 400 or more games, and spent 100 or more days on the Injured Reserve in the last year of their most recent contract).

What am I missing, obviously didn't go in depth but teams can exceed the cap with bonuses. Then they get pushed to the following year as I understood.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/06/why-the-rangers-dont-have-as-much-cap-space-as-it-seems/amp/
23 oct 2020 à 1 h 53
#65
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Quoting: Isles777
I'm not just chirping your bottom 6* players, I am calling out your top 4 D and Frederick Andersen, who always chokes in game 7's and had an awful year last season.

The homer leafs fan says the islanders aren't going to be better next season , sounds like an objective statement to me tears of joy

The islanders are adding dobson, wahlstrom and a franchise caliber goaltender, I think they'll be alright!

Anderson against Columbus in the play-in round:
CBJ AUG 9 0 1 0 2 21 19 .905 0 57:47 1 1 0
CBJ AUG 7 1 0 0 3 39 36 .923 0 70:46 1 1 0
CBJ AUG 6 0 1 0 4 43 39 .907 0 78:24 1 1 0
CBJ AUG 4 1 0 0 0 20 20 1.000 1 60:00 1 1 0
CBJ AUG 2 0 1 0 1 34 33 .971 0 59:20 1 1 0

Career summary:
2019-2020 playoffs 5 5 2 3 -- 0 157 10 1.84 .936 1 327
Career Playoffs 53 53 27 23 -- 0 1,626 137 2.55 .916 3 3,226
2019-2020 52 52 29 13 0 7 1,577 143 2.85 .909 3 3,007
NHL Career 369 358 213 92 -- 45 11,103 927 2.63 .917 19 21,178

Also keep in mind he plays behind one of the worst defensive teams in the league, if not the worst defensive team. Freddy doesn't blow playoff rounds, he's literally the only reason this team makes the playoffs at all.
Not here to participate in the ongoing Buds vs Isles debate, although if results are the metric used, Isles are the better team currently. I just wanted to chime in on Freddy because he gets dumped on far too often when really he's been the MVP on this team 4 years running. If he was on a team like Columbus or NYI he'd have multiple Vezinas by now. Sure, you could point to this past year as an off year, but considering what happened with the team(multiple injuries to only good D, dramatic firing of head coach, pandemic, etc) I would consider it more of an outlier than a trend, and he showed well in the play-in round(1.84, .936). My two cents.
23 oct 2020 à 10 h 26
#66
NTanger19
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hard no from leafs.
24 oct 2020 à 11 h 50
#67
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Thank you. I still doubt this is a huge problem. 4.8M max being added to the cap. Now again, can bonuses not be pushed to the following year should they exceed the cap? Isn't that what happened last year to some teams? They had small cap penalties from the prior year due to performance bonuses.
24 oct 2020 à 11 h 52
#68
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Also why on earth are you reading the NY Post? I hope it was the result of a internet search instead of your usual reading or you are being filled with half truths and sensationalist stories.
24 oct 2020 à 11 h 59
#69
Isles7
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Quoting: PeterK
Thank you. I still doubt this is a huge problem. 4.8M max being added to the cap. Now again, can bonuses not be pushed to the following year should they exceed the cap? Isn't that what happened last year to some teams? They had small cap penalties from the prior year due to performance bonuses.


Quoting: PeterK
Also why on earth are you reading the NY Post? I hope it was the result of a internet search instead of your usual reading or you are being filled with half truths and sensationalist stories.


I don’t believe they can be pushed to the following year, the article will tell you everything you need to know.

I follow Larry brooks on twitter, he covers the rangers
 
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