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Bergevin trades for kane and toews

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Date de création initiale: 20 oct. 2020
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20 oct. 2020 à 20 h 49
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Bowman accepts in a heartbeat. The only problem is you'd probably have to ask Bowman to retain 2 mil for each.
20 oct. 2020 à 20 h 51
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EA Sports, it’s in the game !
20 oct. 2020 à 20 h 51
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THIS IS TOTALLY STUPID!!!!! Why the HELL would we want to become the LEAFS. paying 3 players 10.5 MIL and not being able to resign anyone, let alone trading 8 roster players to get three back!. NO THANKS!!!
20 oct. 2020 à 20 h 52
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Bowman accepts in a heartbeat. The only problem is you'd probably have to ask Bowman to retain 2 mil for each.

Nah only 1 mill or so
20 oct. 2020 à 20 h 54
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Bowman accepts in a heartbeat. The only problem is you'd probably have to ask Bowman to retain 2 mil for each.


No chance.
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20 oct. 2020 à 20 h 54
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THIS IS TOTALLY STUPID!!!!! Why the HELL would we want to become the LEAFS. paying 3 players 10.5 MIL and not being able to resign anyone, let alone trading 8 roster players to get three back!. NO THANKS!!!


Maybe explain yourself. Also do u not realize how good kane and toews r? They've won 3 cups.
20 oct. 2020 à 20 h 55
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No chance.


He wants to rebuild
20 oct. 2020 à 20 h 59
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He wants to rebuild


Rebuild around the core. Kane and toews aren't going anywhere. And you don't rebuild by trading all your best players to one team while not getting their best prosoects
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Rebuild around the core. Kane and toews aren't going anywhere. And you don't rebuild by trading all your best players to one team while not getting their best prosoects


Kotkaniemi and Romanov while getting Drouin lol. pretty good deal for 2 expensive contracts
20 oct. 2020 à 21 h 13
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Maybe explain yourself. Also do u not realize how good kane and toews r? They've won 3 cups.


Toews and Kane are great but for how much longer3-5 years? OK could turn out to be the next Toews and will be good for the next 15 years! Romanov could be the next Doughty. Plus you didn't even look at the long term effects on the cap did you. You left yourself 6 Mil to fill 6 roster spots next year and the year after you would still have to resign Suzuki, Evans and Kubalik with almost nothing left. Brilliant plan my friend.
20 oct. 2020 à 21 h 22
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You don't trade young assets for aging superstars, Neither Kane nor Toews are going to help you win when you're giving up the future to try and win now. Price isn't getting any younger and the D is still suspect. You're at least $2,60,000 over the cap and still need at least 2 more players. Something has to give.
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20 oct. 2020 à 21 h 30
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Kotkaniemi and Romanov while getting Drouin lol. pretty good deal for 2 expensive contracts


Romanov is the best piece in this deal. Kk is ok but is he the player he was in the playoffs or is he the one that got sent down to the minors? Drouin isn't good. If the hawks traded all 3 of their best players to one team they better get that teams best prospect. Suzuki or bust. And I know that's a deal breaker for mtl but it is what it is
20 oct. 2020 à 21 h 30
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yeah easy no from mtl. i
20 oct. 2020 à 22 h 3
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Toews and Kane are great but for how much longer3-5 years? OK could turn out to be the next Toews and will be good for the next 15 years! Romanov could be the next Doughty. Plus you didn't even look at the long term effects on the cap did you. You left yourself 6 Mil to fill 6 roster spots next year and the year after you would still have to resign Suzuki, Evans and Kubalik with almost nothing left. Brilliant plan my friend.


First off, let me tell you, Kotkaniemi will never be Jonathan Toews. He will be a second line centre at best, he really doesn't posses that many great tools. Secondly, Romanov will never be Doughty, as he has no offensive game. You can maybe make a case for Vlasic but that's still reaching. Lastly, just as kane and toews have 3-5 years left, so do price and weber, therefore, if you wanna utilize those 2, you need to wi. today. Lastly, Kubalik is signed for 2 years, evans is not a worry as he isn't good and you will have aria and lehkonen coming off the books when Suzuki is up, giving u close to 6 million and have young guys like Canfield who will be ready to step in for them. Brilliant plan!
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You don't trade young assets for aging superstars, Neither Kane nor Toews are going to help you win when you're giving up the future to try and win now. Price isn't getting any younger and the D is still suspect. You're at least $2,60,000 over the cap and still need at least 2 more players. Something has to give.

Chicago would have to retain some cap
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yeah easy no from mtl. i

And why is that
20 oct. 2020 à 22 h 44
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And why is that


mtl is giving up key future pieces for 2 declining pieces. as good as toews and kane still are, those contracts are gonna ruin everything the habs have built towards in the past 2 years. the clubs health will be horrible in 2-3 years. what if KK turns out to be a better offensive player than toews and romanov becomes a top 2 D man? bad trade.
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mtl is giving up key future pieces for 2 declining pieces. as good as toews and kane still are, those contracts are gonna ruin everything the habs have built towards in the past 2 years. the clubs health will be horrible in 2-3 years. what if KK turns out to be a better offensive player than toews and romanov becomes a top 2 D man? bad trade.


Not gonna happen for either. Kotkaniemi has no incredible tools and Romanov has no offensive game.
21 oct. 2020 à 0 h 11
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First off, let me tell you, Kotkaniemi will never be Jonathan Toews. He will be a second line centre at best, he really doesn't posses that many great tools. Secondly, Romanov will never be Doughty, as he has no offensive game. You can maybe make a case for Vlasic but that's still reaching. Lastly, just as kane and toews have 3-5 years left, so do price and weber, therefore, if you wanna utilize those 2, you need to wi. today. Lastly, Kubalik is signed for 2 years, evans is not a worry as he isn't good and you will have aria and lehkonen coming off the books when Suzuki is up, giving u close to 6 million and have young guys like Canfield who will be ready to step in for them. Brilliant plan!


Ok if Romanov and KK are nothing special then why does every pundit say both are going to be top line players? TSN had Romanov right behind Byram on their top 10 prospects not in the NHL in February. But you know more than guys like Button and Mackenzie right!. We have the guys to help Price and Weber win or have you not been paying attention this off season? Taffoli, Anderson, Suzuki, Gallagher, Kotkaniemi, Drouin, Petry, Romanov, Armia, Tatar, Allen and Danault! You must be a Leafs fan posing as a Habs fan to think that spending 31.5 Mil on 3 players is how to win the cup! Go back to your precious Leafs you poser!

BTW Subban as a backup means the Habs miss the playoffs in years 1 and 2 cause the defense hasn't been addressed. Also the 6 Mil left was in 2021 when Armia, Lehkonen, Fleury and Poehling are needing to be resigned. So you let Armia and Lehkonen walk you said. Poehling will take 1.5 Mil leaving 4.5 Mil and 5 roster spots needing to be filled. Fleury you bridge at 1 Mil. Now you have 3.5 Mil and 4 roster spots. Oh boy Danault needs a contract! Guess he is walking too! But now you have 3.5 Mil space and need to fill 4 roster spots minimum. 4 x 750000 = 3 Mil so I guess your getting 4 players at league minimum with no players available for injury fill-ins. AWSOME!! Then in 2022 you would have 13.5 Mil in cap space Susuki would gets 6 Mil, Kubalik gets 6 Mil that's 12 out of 13.5 Mil and you still need another 4 roster players including a backup, who I assume would be Primeau at that point. So there goes basically 1 Mil. Now your down to .5 Mil and need 3 roster players so you forfeit the season due to not enough players guess your not winning the cup in year 3 either.
21 oct. 2020 à 1 h 13
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Kotkaniemi and Romanov while getting Drouin lol. pretty good deal for 2 expensive contracts


The Hawks aren't moving cap dumps. You'll have to do better prospect wise beyond Romanov (don't want Kotkaniemi swap for Suzuki...we don't want Kotkaniemi) to get Toews and Kane including 1st round picks versus a bunch of role players and there isn't a chance we give up Kubalik.
21 oct. 2020 à 3 h 25
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Kotkaniemi and Romanov while getting Drouin lol. pretty good deal for 2 expensive contracts


Oh yeah the duo that got like 8 points last season... On another episode of Montreal fans overrating their unproven prospects
 
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