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Would Either Team Do This

Créé par: dzad96
Équipe: 2020-21 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 20 oct. 2020
Publié: 20 oct. 2020
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If Winnipeg thinks they can make a run in the next 1-3 seasons? Idk if it makes sense. Throwing out a new idea for thought. Would either team consider it?
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20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 37
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20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 39
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I wouldnt do it if Im Chicago. Lose your best D prospect, and your captain, for a goal scorer who cant play defense
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20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 40
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No


Fair. Curious as to why tho?
20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 40
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I've seen a lot of concerns o er a laine extensions, why is that? I've never seen it for before in the case of an rfa
20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 40
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I wouldnt do it if Im Chicago. Lose your best D prospect, and your captain, for a goal scorer who cant play defense


If you want to get real weird... Toews for Laine one for one maybe?
20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 42
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If you want to get real weird... Toews for Laine one for one maybe?


Is there a need for Laine in Chicago? If DeBrincat even remotely bounces back then they have him and Kubalik as excellent snipers
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Personally I think Toews would love to play in Peg since it’s his home and I think he’d waive, but I don’t want Laine. I’d want two picks and two A-B prospects.
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20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 43
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I've seen a lot of concerns o er a laine extensions, why is that? I've never seen it for before in the case of an rfa


There’s no worry lol. He’s not against signing long term, he just doesn’t want to in Winnipeg.

I think CHI easily says no.
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20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 44
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If you want to get real weird... Toews for Laine one for one maybe?


It just wouldnt work. No way Peg trades Laine for the tail end of Toews career and nothing else.

If im Winnipeg, yeah Id try to get Boqvist, but if not, im looking at Strome/Dach
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20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 47
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Personally I think Toews would love to play in Peg since it’s his home and I think he’d waive, but I don’t want Laine. I’d want two picks and two A-B prospects.


Too much of an ask for Toews at this point in his career IMO, especially with his cap hit. If you went the pick/prospect route I think a 1st and 1 A - B+ prospect is the best you'd get, cap hit and age being reasons.
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20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 47
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It just wouldnt work. No way Peg trades Laine for the tail end of Toews career and nothing else.

If im Winnipeg, yeah Id try to get Boqvist, but if not, im looking at Strome/Dach


Toews and strome for Laine? I'd do that as a hawks fan but it would leave a huge hole down the middle for the hawks
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20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 48
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It just wouldnt work. No way Peg trades Laine for the tail end of Toews career and nothing else.

If im Winnipeg, yeah Id try to get Boqvist, but if not, im looking at Strome/Dach


Chicago rebuilding, Peg taking a run at a cup while wheeler still producing, My only thoughts there. I don't know if Laine to CHI would be compatible, just like discussing new ideas.
20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 48
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Too much of an ask for Toews at this point in his career IMO, especially with his cap hit. If you went the pick/prospect route I think a 1st and 1 A - B+ prospect is the best you'd get, cap hit and age being reasons.


Rebuilding team can retain salary though. Get toews cap hit down to about 7 mil
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20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 49
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Sure why not with Boq being a good NHLer already
20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 50
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Rebuilding team can retain salary though. Get toews cap hit down to about 7 mil


Just thought Toews in Peg for a couple years while he's still got some game would be cool to see.
20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 55
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I don't know why Hawks would ever consider that.

WPG adds to a Laine for Toews straight up deal.
20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 57
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I don't know why Hawks would ever consider that.

WPG adds to a Laine for Toews straight up deal.


Toews on a 10.5 cap hit, 32 years old, 33 by playoff time, He will start declining very soon, Laine should get better. Trading 3 years of a declining Toews for potentially 9+ years of what should be a Laine on the upswing.... Guy could, emphasis COULD, become a consisten 40-50 goal guy, has the potential.
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20 oct. 2020 à 15 h 59
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We already have Debrincat and Kubalik. We don't need another goal scoring winger.

Our problem is on defense so for that reason I think Chicago passes.
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20 oct. 2020 à 16 h 0
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Just thought Toews in Peg for a couple years while he's still got some game would be cool to see.


Oh I would absolutely hate it! But in this scenario I'm assuming he requested a trade. So getting Laine is enough to make me feel a little better about it
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20 oct. 2020 à 16 h 8
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There’s no worry lol. He’s not against signing long term, he just doesn’t want to in Winnipeg.

I think CHI easily says no.


I've seen it in multiple threads and I find it so weird
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20 oct. 2020 à 18 h 12
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Toews on a 10.5 cap hit, 32 years old, 33 by playoff time, He will start declining very soon, Laine should get better. Trading 3 years of a declining Toews for potentially 9+ years of what should be a Laine on the upswing.... Guy could, emphasis COULD, become a consisten 40-50 goal guy, has the potential.


You'd basically be betting on Laine becoming Ovechkin.
Toews brings more than points.
Toews also has more points (over the 4 seasons they both have played).
Plays a more premium position.
Brings Selke-caliber defense.
Has won every competition he's played in (WJC, WC, Olympics, 3 cups).
Is very definition of 1c.
Has three years at $10.5 million. Probably another 3 good years on top of that.
Laine has one year at $6.7 million, then 8 years at $9-10 million.

Toews > Laine, for me. No question.
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20 oct. 2020 à 18 h 17
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You'd basically be betting on Laine becoming Ovechkin.
Toews brings more than points.
Toews also has more points (over the 4 seasons they both have played).
Plays a more premium position.
Brings Selke-caliber defense.
Has won every competition he's played in (WJC, WC, Olympics, 3 cups).
Is very definition of 1c.
Has three years at $10.5 million. Probably another 3 good years on top of that.
Laine has one year at $6.7 million, then 8 years at $9-10 million.

Toews > Laine, for me. No question.


Couldn't disagree more but fair analysis, different side of seeing it. For me the 32 years old and 22 years old card trumps everything else. I'd take a bet on Laine becoming Ovechkin rather than watching Toews sail off into the sunset if I'm chicago, but that's just me. Toews will have a statue infront of that rink one day so maybe trading him isn't an option, but as far as just pure value for value is concerned I think it's a no brainer for the Hawks.
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20 oct. 2020 à 19 h 9
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Quoting: tsyls
There’s no worry lol. He’s not against signing long term, he just doesn’t want to in Winnipeg.

I think CHI easily says no.


Don't think he does? I think Laine would've if the AAV was what he wanted but I think that ship has sailed, not sure this relationship is repairable at this point.
Not a matter of if he gets traded, just a matter of when.

I think this is all pretty crazy, a guy who scores goals falls in your lap and they're gonna trade him and Roslovic while Wheeler is well on the other side of 30 when the prospect pool is almost empty, really hope Appleton has another gear and Vesalainen figures it out soon I guess, and for awhile I did think this organization knew what it was doing, really is the Ottawa Senators of western Canada... 😂
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