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Is there a Blockbuster Out There

Créé par: SmugTkachuk
Date de création initiale: oct 20, 2020
Publié: 20 oct 2020 à 11 h 11
Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary
Explications
Leaves Giordano, Backlund and Tanev exposed to Seattle which moves a big cap piece hopefully.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Myers, Philippe64 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Perry, Corey11 500 000 $
Transactions
CGY
  1. Myers, Philippe [Droits de RFA]
  2. Patrick, Nolan
  3. 2021 1e round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Gaudreau, Johnny
  2. Ryan, Derek
  3. 2021 2e round pick (CGY)
Rachats de contrats
  • Troy Brouwer: 1 500 000 $
  • Michael Stone: 1 166 667 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
CGY
PHI
CGY
EDM
CGY
CGY
CGY
2022
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
2023
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $76 813 291 $0 $457 500 $4 686 709 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
CGY
Tkachuk, Matthew
7 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
CGY
Monahan, Sean
6 375 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 3
CGY
Lindholm, Elias
4 850 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
CGY
Mangiapane, Andrew
2 425 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
CGY
Backlund, Mikael
5 350 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 4
CGY
Dubé, Dillon
778 333 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
CGY
Lucic, Milan
5 250 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 3
PHI
Patrick, Nolan
874 125 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
Perry, Corey
1 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
CGY
Nordström, Joakim
700 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
CGY
Bennett, Sam
2 550 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
CGY
Gawdin, Glenn
700 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
CGY
Giordano, Mark
6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
CGY
Andersson, Rasmus
4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
CGY
Markström, Jacob
6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
CGY
Hanifin, Noah
4 950 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Myers, Philippe
4 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
CGY
Rittich, David
2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
CGY
Välimäki, Juuso
894 166 $
DG
RFA - 1
CGY
Tanev, Christopher
4 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
CGY
Rinaldo, Zac
700 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
CGY
Petrovic, Alex
700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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20 oct 2020 à 11 h 16
#1
Dr.
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I think you could get more for johnny. I don't know why you'd be trading one of your top players for patrick, plus philly would be over cap after this i'm pretty sure, they'd need to send some money back.
20 oct 2020 à 11 h 24
#2
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Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
I think you could get more for johnny. I don't know why you'd be trading one of your top players for patrick, plus philly would be over cap after this i'm pretty sure, they'd need to send some money back.


Cap was my only concern really. I definitely think that there is room to improve a Johnny deal but I also think that a lot of teams look at Gaudreau as a piece that they can live without, not going to be a huge market for Johnny with only 2 years remaining on a deal and not efficient in the playoffs. I think that Patrick is a good piece but the trade is really built around a young right shot D that exposes Tanev and Giordano in the expansion draft which hopefully opens up a world of cap for Calgary next off season with a lot of good UFA's on the market next season. Tkachuk and MAngiapane will also be looking for raises
20 oct 2020 à 11 h 26
#3
Jaromir_Jagr_the_leg
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Don’t u have to protect gio?
20 oct 2020 à 11 h 32
#4
KFTW
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Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
I think you could get more for johnny. I don't know why you'd be trading one of your top players for patrick, plus philly would be over cap after this i'm pretty sure, they'd need to send some money back.


Any trade that returns Phil Myers is a big win for Calgary. Dont think Philly trades him tho
20 oct 2020 à 11 h 32
#5
Dr.
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
Cap was my only concern really. I definitely think that there is room to improve a Johnny deal but I also think that a lot of teams look at Gaudreau as a piece that they can live without, not going to be a huge market for Johnny with only 2 years remaining on a deal and not efficient in the playoffs. I think that Patrick is a good piece but the trade is really built around a young right shot D that exposes Tanev and Giordano in the expansion draft which hopefully opens up a world of cap for Calgary next off season with a lot of good UFA's on the market next season. Tkachuk and MAngiapane will also be looking for raises


Yes and no, i think on the right team johnny could produce in playoffs, i also tink a lot of it is monahan not producing. Johnny still gets elite numbers during regular season to get the team a top spot in playoffs which is huge. Hypothetically i think you'd still be able to get Myers in the deal and upgrade patrick to say frost, but i think if you're sending 10 mil over to philly you're going to have to take some cap back.
20 oct 2020 à 11 h 44
#6
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I think both teams decline this. Philly for Cap reasons and because they love Myers. Calgary because Patrick is way too much of a risk at this point in time.
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20 oct 2020 à 11 h 47
#7
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Quoting: Lunatik
I think both teams decline this. Philly for Cap reasons and because they love Myers. Calgary because Patrick is way too much of a risk at this point in time.


This. Calgary could probably get more for that package, and Patrick and Myers are probably the two biggest "more value to us than to anybody else" pieces on the roster
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20 oct 2020 à 12 h 06
#8
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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
Don’t u have to protect gio?


No sir NTC vs NMC, Lucic is the only mandatory protect and there is a pretty good idea that he will waive it after the deal to Calgary. Rumours have been all over that the deal doesn't go through if there isn't a hadn shake deal between Treliving and Lucic about waiving for Seattle.
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20 oct 2020 à 12 h 13
#9
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
No sir NTC vs NMC, Lucic is the only mandatory protect and there is a pretty good idea that he will waive it after the deal to Calgary. Rumours have been all over that the deal doesn't go through if there isn't a hadn shake deal between Treliving and Lucic about waiving for Seattle.
Markstrom is a mandatory protect too, he was given a full NMC.

But you are right on Looch and it was Treliving's own words that made people suspect there is a handshake agreement. The day of or after the trade he was directly asked about the expansion draft implications and said something to the effect of -- I'm not worried (about expansion), but I will not discuss negotiations I've had with players.
20 oct 2020 à 12 h 14
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Chuck Fletcher stated publicly that he believes that the Flyers are deeper than almost any team at the wing and would not be adding a winger without making other changes to the position.... so can we finally kill Gaudreau coming to the Flyers because the Flames want to move him and he's from NJ.

Also, Myers is our only RHD. No interest in making our depth chart worse in positions of weakness to add a luxury item at a position of strength.
20 oct 2020 à 12 h 21
#11
jcambers
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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
Don’t u have to protect gio?


Personally, I don't think so... he's great but a big contract, getting old and slowing down. I think GMBT takes a gamble and exposes him but Seattle won't take on a contract that big for such short term.
20 oct 2020 à 13 h 16
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Quoting: ALitteral
Chuck Fletcher stated publicly that he believes that the Flyers are deeper than almost any team at the wing and would not be adding a winger without making other changes to the position.... so can we finally kill Gaudreau coming to the Flyers because the Flames want to move him and he's from NJ.

Also, Myers is our only RHD. No interest in making our depth chart worse in positions of weakness to add a luxury item at a position of strength.


Don't think that's quite how he said it, he basically stated he wouldn't add a winger unless it was an obvious upgrade, which Gaudreau would be. I do think however that the more likely avenue would be acquiring him next season, as I think by that point we will look to unload a couple of contracts anyways and one or both of JVR and Jake will be out
20 oct 2020 à 13 h 20
#13
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Quoting: jcambers
Personally, I don't think so... he's great but a big contract, getting old and slowing down. I think GMBT takes a gamble and exposes him but Seattle won't take on a contract that big for such short term.


No bc he has ntc
 
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