It's funny the leaf contracts all end before the Doughty contract and signed after him. They also are all younger too. Absolute **** contracts.
Yeah well at least Doughty earned his contract. He's a far better player than Tavares has ever been and he was a key part of them actually winning the cup... twice.
Also... who gives Matthews and Marner a combined like 23 million dollars after their ELC. That's the definition of stupidity.
Edit: Which was caused by the **** show of a contract that was given to Tavares lol.
Yeah well at least Doughty earned his contract. He's a far better player than Tavares has ever been and he was a key part of them actually winning the cup... twice.
Also... who gives Matthews and Marner a combined like 23 million dollars after their ELC. That's the definition of stupidity.
Edit: Which was caused by the **** show of a contract that was given to Tavares lol.
Marner is overpaid yes but still scores 20 - 25 goals and easy for 60+ apples
Matthews on a full season seems a perennial 40 goal scorer which very few players can do. Kind of worth the money.
Tavares is a UFA signing which always is slightly more expensive but he still scores 30+ every year.
Outside of Marner being 1-1.5M overpaid the contracts are pretty much what they are worth.
There really aren't many groups of players that can boast those numbers. Tampa, Chicago(in their prime) and Edmonton. You can say the contracts are expensive but you can't say the players aren't carrying their weight
Marner is overpaid yes but still scores 20 - 25 goals and easy for 60+ apples
Matthews on a full season seems a perennial 40 goal scorer which very few players can do. Kind of worth the money.
Tavares is a UFA signing which always is slightly more expensive but he still scores 30+ every year.
Outside of Marner being 1-1.5M overpaid the contracts are pretty much what they are worth.
There really aren't many groups of players that can boast those numbers. Tampa, Chicago(in their prime) and Edmonton. You can say the contracts are expensive but you can't say the players aren't carrying their weight
Matthews should have gotten paid an Eichel type deal: 8 times 10M. Not a 5 year 11.7M type bull**** deal. Marner should have been paid like 9M. Tavares should have never been offered a contract, definitely not over 9M either. If he didn't want it, let him walk.
I love Matthews and I think Marner is becoming underrated because of his contract. But there is no denying that Toronto mismanaged the contracts of their star players. Didn't they give like 6.5 for 3 years to Marleau at like 38 lol. Like what?
Now I'm not saying that my team doesn't make stupid contracts, which they do. But the whole thing was about that guy making fun of LA for the Doughty contract while ignoring the fact that his team is filled with bad contracts.
Tavares should have never been offered a contract, definitely not over 9M either. If he didn't want it, let him walk..
some god tier revisionism right here boys.
sharks and islanders were tabling contracts for tavares worth a 13 M AAV. but yes, toronto definitely should've played hard ball with the best ufa in a decade who actually wanted to join the team.
sharks and islanders were tabling contracts for tavares worth a 13 M AAV. but yes, toronto definitely should've played hard ball with the best ufa in a decade who actually wanted to join the team.
I mean it doesn't take a genius to realize that market value for UFAs don't work out well. Tavares was never worth 11M nor was he worth 13M lol. If you actually thought that then jeez lol. You build your team through good trades and drafting, not by overpaying 30 year olds.
I mean it doesn't take a genius to realize that market value for UFAs don't work out well. Tavares was never worth 11M nor was he worth 13M lol. If you actually thought that then jeez lol. You build your team through good trades and drafting, not by overpaying 30 year olds.
actually you build your team by circumventing the cap and signing your ufas to 13 year contracts.
Matthews should have gotten paid an Eichel type deal: 8 times 10M. Not a 5 year 11.7M type bull**** deal. Marner should have been paid like 9M. Tavares should have never been offered a contract, definitely not over 9M either. If he didn't want it, let him walk.
I love Matthews and I think Marner is becoming underrated because of his contract. But there is no denying that Toronto mismanaged the contracts of their star players. Didn't they give like 6.5 for 3 years to Marleau at like 38 lol. Like what?
Now I'm not saying that my team doesn't make stupid contracts, which they do. But the whole thing was about that guy making fun of LA for the Doughty contract while ignoring the fact that his team is filled with bad contracts.
Yeah well the Doughty contract is one of the worst in the league. Dude is 30 with a full NMC for another 7 years. Not being able to accept that kind of makes you out to be a hater bringing nothing productive to the conversation. You admit the Hawks signed themselves have **** contracts.
To your argument about Eichel, the league is moving away from 8 year contracts that end up like Doughty. Also as much as you say Matthews contract sucks he is worth every penny and he had all of the leverage in that situation. You can't replace him. The Tavares contact is less then most of the teams around the league were offering and they now have one of the scariest 1-2 in the league.
You can't judge the current Leafs on Marleau when Lu inked that deal.
actually you build your team by circumventing the cap and signing your ufas to 13 year contracts.
... and not giving out stupid to washed up franchise players. All I said was that the guy who was a maple leafs fan that was criticizing LA is literally a hypocrite because even now, I'd rather have Doughty then Tavares. Especially considering Doughty plays on a ****ty team in the middle of a rebuild and Tavares looked pretty bad last season on a very good team.
... and not giving out stupid to washed up franchise players. All I said was that the guy who was a maple leafs fan that was criticizing LA is literally a hypocrite because even now, I'd rather have Doughty then Tavares. Especially considering Doughty plays on a ****ty team in the middle of a rebuild and Tavares looked pretty bad last season on a very good team.
i mean i'd hardly call 60 pts to 63 games washed. was still fairly productive on a team that felt like it was on fire with it's pants down most of the season
Yeah well the Doughty contract is one of the worst in the league. Dude is 30 with a full NMC for another 7 years. Not being able to accept that kind of makes you out to be a hater bringing nothing productive to the conversation. You admit the Hawks signed themselves have **** contracts.
To your argument about Eichel, the league is moving away from 8 year contracts that end up like Doughty. Also as much as you say Matthews contract sucks he is worth every penny and he had all of the leverage in that situation. You can't replace him. The Tavares contact is less then most of the teams around the league were offering and they now have one of the scariest 1-2 in the league.
You can't judge the current Leafs on Marleau when Lu inked that deal.
It doesn't make me any more of a Leafs hater then you guys being Kings haters lol.
Matthews had all the leverage because Tavares signed his 11M contract. So Matthews was like, I'm better then him and deserve that money. And then Marner came along and was like hey I'm putting up 95 point seasons while Matthews is injured, why can't I get that money. Next thing you know, you have three players making 11 million dollars and you can't build a team.
Doughty is overpaid but the difference is that he was a major reason that the Kings won two cups in three years and he's been a top three defensemen for pretty much his entire career whereas Tavares was not really a top 3 forward besides maybe one season. And the most important thing is that the contract came from Los Angeles because they were rewarding him for how great he played and was playing. So future stars won't have that sort of leverage in contract negotiations.
i mean i'd hardly call 60 pts to 63 games washed. was still fairly productive on a team that felt like it was on fire with it's pants down most of the season
Yeah but people have forgotten that league scoring is up a lot. 80 points today is a lot less than 80 points 5 years ago. If he wants 11M, he should be hitting 100 points every year
Matthews should have gotten paid an Eichel type deal: 8 times 10M. Not a 5 year 11.7M type bull**** deal. Marner should have been paid like 9M. Tavares should have never been offered a contract, definitely not over 9M either. If he didn't want it, let him walk.
I love Matthews and I think Marner is becoming underrated because of his contract. But there is no denying that Toronto mismanaged the contracts of their star players. Didn't they give like 6.5 for 3 years to Marleau at like 38 lol. Like what?
Now I'm not saying that my team doesn't make stupid contracts, which they do. But the whole thing was about that guy making fun of LA for the Doughty contract while ignoring the fact that his team is filled with bad contracts.
But the Doughty contract is worse than all of Toronto’s contracts.
It doesn't make me any more of a Leafs hater then you guys being Kings haters lol.
Matthews had all the leverage because Tavares signed his 11M contract. So Matthews was like, I'm better then him and deserve that money. And then Marner came along and was like hey I'm putting up 95 point seasons while Matthews is injured, why can't I get that money. Next thing you know, you have three players making 11 million dollars and you can't build a team.
Doughty is overpaid but the difference is that he was a major reason that the Kings won two cups in three years and he's been a top three defensemen for pretty much his entire career whereas Tavares was not really a top 3 forward besides maybe one season. And the most important thing is that the contract came from Los Angeles because they were rewarding him for how great he played and was playing. So future stars won't have that sort of leverage in contract negotiations.
Since People haven't attacked the Kings for that contract kinda does make you out to be the hater while other are just pointing out Doughty's contract is rough. Also the logic of rewarding a player after they achieved something is how you get the Kings, Sharks, Blackhawks and contracts like Marleau. Paying a player because they were good just sets you up for them to not live up to that contract. The direction of the league is paying for a players best years and not how good they have been. This is coming from a Vegas fan who has the lead weight that is Fleury and cloud of Pietro in the future.
Matthews without Tavares would look at the rest of the league and still look to get paid what he got. Marner contract you won't hear argument he should have been 8.5-9.