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Tuch Has To Go

Créé par: Hawks_Are_Dumm
Équipe: 2020-21 Golden Knights de Vegas
Date de création initiale: 19 oct. 2020
Publié: 19 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
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19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 16
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I think Bear will want more.
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19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 17
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No thanks.
19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 18
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Why does tuch have to go he is locked up long term and if he keeps progressing the contract might be a steal. I think either trade smith or depth pieces like holden imo
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19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 18
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I think Bear will want more.



Nope. He knows or (should) that we are in a flat cap, so he will have to take a one year 1.5-2M contract.
19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 19
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Nope. He knows or (should) that we are in a flat cap, so he will have to take a one year 1.5-2M contract.


Oh ok. He'd better than that I'd say, but sure.
19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 20
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Oh ok. He'd better than that I'd say, but sure.



It’s just because of the flat cap. If it wasn’t a flat cap, then he would probably want and MAYBE get more money.
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19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 23
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Tuch to Ottawa, yes plzzzz
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19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 24
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I think Bear will want more.


He is worth more but he basically has no bargaining leverage yet. He isn’t eligible for Arbitration, the Oilers insiders figure that he will get a bridge deal between 1-1.5M
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19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 25
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I would love to give up more than that to have him in boston.
19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 27
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Quoting: Nhl_oilers
Nope. He knows or (should) that we are in a flat cap, so he will have to take a one year 1.5-2M contract.


Leafs fans were saying the same thing about Mikheyev but turns out hes ask8ng for 2.7M. Mind you Bear doesnt have arbitration right but after Rasmus Andersson got 4.55M its going to be hard to convince Bear to take less than 2
19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 28
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Leafs fans were saying the same thing about Mikheyev but turns out hes ask8ng for 2.7M. Mind you Bear doesnt have arbitration right but after Rasmus Andersson got 4.55M its going to be hard to convince Bear to take less than 2


True, but Andersson wasn’t signed in a flat cap. If he sees our cap space he should take 2 or less for a one or two year contract. So it’s hard to compare the contracts.
19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 28
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With Klefbom out of the year, Bear will not be going anywhere.
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19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 28
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I would love to give up more than that to have him in boston.


this is the equivalent Boston trading Carlo and a 2nd for Tuch. You would give up more than that? Dont undervalue Bear, he is very solid
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19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 30
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
this is the equivalent Boston trading Carlo and a 2nd for Tuch. You would give up more than that? Dont undervalue Bear, he is very solid

Oh goodness. You’re precious.
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19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 31
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Quoting: Nhl_oilers
True, but Andersson wasn’t signed in a flat cap. If he sees our cap space he should take 2 or less for a one or two year contract. So it’s hard to compare the contracts.


Klefbom might be out the entire season, you should have the cap space to sign him to for 2.5M
19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 35
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Oh goodness. You’re precious.


What? Bear is definitely the same caliber as Carlo, take off the homer glasses and you would see that
19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 37
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Klefbom might be out the entire season, you should have the cap space to sign him to for 2.5M


I would do 2.5M. Probably gonna get under 2M though
19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 44
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He is worth more but he basically has no bargaining leverage yet. He isn’t eligible for Arbitration, the Oilers insiders figure that he will get a bridge deal between 1-1.5M


Hmm, ok, I didn't know.
19 oct. 2020 à 21 h 46
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
What? Bear is definitely the same caliber as Carlo, take off the homer glasses and you would see that


Own him
19 oct. 2020 à 22 h 23
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No he doesn’t.
19 oct. 2020 à 22 h 35
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
What? Bear is definitely the same caliber as Carlo, take off the homer glasses and you would see that


Could be homer glasses i suppose.

Or it could be that one guy was the best defensive player for the team with the fewest goals against this season. Same was true the year before for a cup finalist. The other was a minus player on a poor defensive team.

Could be homerism, but i kinda think it has more to do with one guy having a very defined role on a very good team, and the other having an ill defined role on a meh team.
19 oct. 2020 à 22 h 52
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Could be homer glasses i suppose.

Or it could be that one guy was the best defensive player for the team with the fewest goals against this season. Same was true the year before for a cup finalist. The other was a minus player on a poor defensive team.

Could be homerism, but i kinda think it has more to do with one guy having a very defined role on a very good team, and the other having an ill defined role on a meh team.


I feel like you don't really know who Ethan Bear is. He was a rookie this season as a 22 year old and took over the first pair role in the first ~month of the season. Yes Edmonton's defensive game overall is weak but that doesn't make Bear bad at defense, in fact he is quite good at it. Of the 2 players Bear also had the better EV Corsi For and GAR this season.

You are definitely just choosing to ignore what Bear has done this season, he is certainly on a similar level to Carlo
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19 oct. 2020 à 22 h 54
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I feel like you don't really know who Ethan Bear is. He was a rookie this season as a 22 year old and took over the first pair role in the first ~month of the season. Yes Edmonton's defensive game overall is weak but that doesn't make Bear bad at defense, in fact he is quite good at it. Of the 2 players Bear also had the better EV Corsi For and GAR this season.

You are definitely just choosing to ignore what Bear has done this season, he is certainly on a similar level to Carlo


Just talking about GAR and EV Corsi on a Tuesday in west coast games after 7pm ends my interest in this.

Circle back if you wanna talk hockey.
19 oct. 2020 à 23 h 3
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Just talking about GAR and EV Corsi on a Tuesday in west coast games after 7pm ends my interest in this.

Circle back if you wanna talk hockey.


Lol what? Guess this is admittance of defeat. Glad you took off the goggles to see the picture for what it actually is.
19 oct. 2020 à 23 h 12
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Edmonton declines Bear is basically one of the Oiler untouchables he’s not being moved unless someone was willing to massively overpay.
 
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