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Who Won this trade

Créé par: Shifttee
Équipe: 2020-21 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 16 oct. 2020
Publié: 19 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
3925 000 $
3925 000 $
Transactions
NYR
  1. Gunler, Noel
  2. Honka, Anttoni
  3. Rees, Jamieson
Détails additionnels:
This is what the NYR draft picks turned into from the fox trade
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $78 112 322 $1 367 073 $4 057 500 $3 387 678 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
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UFA - 4
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 2
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3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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UFA - 3
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
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UFA - 1
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763 333 $763 333 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
C, AD
RFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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19 oct. 2020 à 17 h 42
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It is hard to say NYR didn't win this trade flat out, Fox looked like a legit top 4 d-man as a rookie
(and giving up 2 seconds for him was a win, COL paid 2 seconds for D.Toews, personally I like Fox better)

With that aside:

The return on Fox alone was pretty great for a guy that wouldn't sign with us,
But actually seeing the pieces it turned into, is kind of phenominal.

Carolina has had one of the best overall drafts 2 years running, and now is top 5 deepest prospect pools hands down.
And this trade was legitamately a huge part of that.

(and yes, they're just prospects, and maybe all 3 flop at the NHL level)

But this is pretty nice now that we can see what we actually got for Fox.
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19 oct. 2020 à 17 h 43
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Time will tell but probably the Rangers
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19 oct. 2020 à 17 h 45
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Quoting: Shifttee
It is hard to say NYR didn't win this trade flat out, Fox looked like a legit top 4 d-man as a rookie
(and giving up 2 seconds for him was a win, COL paid 2 seconds for D.Toews, personally I like Fox better)

With that aside:

The return on Fox alone was pretty great for a guy that wouldn't sign with us,
But actually seeing the pieces it turned into, is kind of phenominal.

Carolina has had one of the best overall drafts 2 years running, and now is top 5 deepest prospect pools hands down.
And this trade was legitamately a huge part of that.

(and yes, they're just prospects, and maybe all 3 flop at the NHL level)

But this is pretty nice now that we can see what we actually got for Fox.


Rangers 100%. Unfortunately canes lost when they drafted fox, no fault of their own.
19 oct. 2020 à 17 h 46
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Quoting: Shifttee
It is hard to say NYR didn't win this trade flat out, Fox looked like a legit top 4 d-man as a rookie
(and giving up 2 seconds for him was a win, COL paid 2 seconds for D.Toews, personally I like Fox better)

With that aside:

The return on Fox alone was pretty great for a guy that wouldn't sign with us,
But actually seeing the pieces it turned into, is kind of phenominal.

Carolina has had one of the best overall drafts 2 years running, and now is top 5 deepest prospect pools hands down.
And this trade was legitamately a huge part of that.

(and yes, they're just prospects, and maybe all 3 flop at the NHL level)

But this is pretty nice now that we can see what we actually got for Fox.

Exactly this, it’s too early to know what the canes actually have. All 3 are great prospects but they are jsut prospects. It’s more than likely that Fox is the best player in the deal
19 oct. 2020 à 17 h 47
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Rangers 100%. Unfortunately canes lost when they drafted fox, no fault of their own.


They didn't draft Fox, you're a Flames fan you should know that
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19 oct. 2020 à 17 h 48
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Rangers 100%. Unfortunately canes lost when they drafted fox, no fault of their own.

Fox was part of the Hamilton deal they did not draft him. Unfortunately it wouldn’t have mattered what team that drafted fox, he was only going to play for the rangers. Whether players should be allowed to do this so easily is another conversation
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19 oct. 2020 à 17 h 48
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
They didn't draft Fox, you're a Flames fan you should know that


Lol, yup my bad.
19 oct. 2020 à 17 h 51
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Quoting: etpeck
Fox was part of the Hamilton deal they did not draft him. Unfortunately it wouldn’t have mattered what team that drafted fox, he was only going to play for the rangers. Whether players should be allowed to do this so easily is another conversation


Yup, I agreesomething should be done about signing window for players in school.
19 oct. 2020 à 18 h 4
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Tough to say. I think Rangers got the best player but considering Fox wouldn’t have signed no matter what they got tremendous value for him...
19 oct. 2020 à 18 h 13
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Carolina won.. they got 2 2nds for nothing
19 oct. 2020 à 18 h 13
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Quoting: Shifttee
It is hard to say NYR didn't win this trade flat out, Fox looked like a legit top 4 d-man as a rookie
(and giving up 2 seconds for him was a win, COL paid 2 seconds for D.Toews, personally I like Fox better)

With that aside:

The return on Fox alone was pretty great for a guy that wouldn't sign with us,
But actually seeing the pieces it turned into, is kind of phenominal.

Carolina has had one of the best overall drafts 2 years running, and now is top 5 deepest prospect pools hands down.
And this trade was legitamately a huge part of that.

(and yes, they're just prospects, and maybe all 3 flop at the NHL level)

But this is pretty nice now that we can see what we actually got for Fox.


You make a lot of good points!

What I will say though is that in reality you value the picks before picking players. You can't bash whoever traded a 5th rounder to Ottawa when they picked Mark Stone or whatever the case was, because if everyone knew what Mark Stone was, he wouldn't be there in the 5th round. And for this case in particular, the trade was made way ahead of not only the draft order, but an entire season of prospecs playing, what the other teams did in the draft, how good both Carolina and NYR were going to be in the standing etc.

But with that said - we also didn't know Fox was going to look this good. We knew he wasn't going to sign in Carolina, so any return is somewhat positive. And the expected value of those picks might not be great, but Carolina seemingly drafts well, and in hindsight it looks like a good return, giving the scenario and what we knew then.
19 oct. 2020 à 18 h 22
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Rangers easily win this now, and for the foreseeable future.
19 oct. 2020 à 18 h 36
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rangers win now in the future could be canes since Rees, Gunler and Honka are all decent prospects
19 oct. 2020 à 18 h 40
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Rangers right now, but Carolina did well considering he was never gonna sign there. Now the Brady Skjei trade on the other hand...
19 oct. 2020 à 19 h 24
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Rangers only gave up Mads Sogaard and Noel Gunler.
19 oct. 2020 à 20 h 39
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Fox for 2 2nds was great for NYR and also for CAR considering their drafting the last 2+ years!!
Canes are stock full of nice forward prospects with a few nice d prospects. I'd say deepest pool in the league!
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20 oct. 2020 à 9 h 50
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Since Fox wasn't going to sign with Canes, they absolutely won this.
 
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