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How to fit under cap

Créé par: KubaH
Date de création initiale: oct 19, 2020
Publié: 19 oct à 6 h 06
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Explications
The Lightning can use the LTIR salary pools to increase the salary cap.
First trade: Minnesota has a new starter in Talbot and a young goalie for the future in Kahkonen, who will be ready in no more than a year. Stalock was signed for 2 years, MacElhinney is for 1 year.
Second trade: Two long and bad deals swap. The Bruins have Pastrnak and Marchand out for the beginning of the season, so Johnson could be helpful.
Third trade: the Lightning somehow need to trade for one of Hossa/Gaborik/Dubinsky/Kesler to be able to use the salary pools.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Cirelli, Anthony33 333 333 $
Volkov, Alexander2725 000 $
Joseph, Mathieu2725 000 $
Cernak, Erik22 500 000 $
Sergachev, Mikhail13 500 000 $
Transactions
TBL
  1. Stalock, Alex
MIN
  1. McElhinney, Curtis
  2. Semykin, Dmitri
  3. 2021 6e round pick (TBL)
TBL
  1. Moore, John
  2. 2021 3e round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Johnson, Tyler
  2. 2023 5e round pick (TBL)
TBL
  1. Karlberg, Marcus [Liste de réserve]
  2. Dubinsky, Brandon
CBJ
  1. Raddysh, Taylor
Rachats de contrats
  • Vincent Lecavalier: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
TBL
TBL
BOS
TBL
TBL
TBL
NSH
NJD
2022
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
2023
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $85 897 499 $0 $0 $-4 397 499 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TBL
Palat, Ondrej
5 300 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Point, Brayden
6 750 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
TBL
Killorn, Alex
4 450 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
3 333 333 $
C
RFA
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
8 500 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
TBL
Goodrow, Barclay
925 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
TBL
Gourde, Yanni
5 166 666 $
AD, AG, C
NTC
UFA - 5
TBL
Coleman, Blake
1 800 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
TBL
Paquette, Cédric
1 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
TBL
Stephens, Mitchell
737 500 $
C
RFA - 2
TBL
Maroon, Patrick
900 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TBL
Hedman, Victor
7 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
TBL
Sergachev, Mikhail
3 500 000 $
DG
RFA
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
9 500 000 $
G
UFA - 8
TBL
McDonagh, Ryan
6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 6
TBL
Cernak, Erik
2 500 000 $
DD
RFA
MIN
Stalock, Alex
785 000 $
G
UFA - 2
BOS
Moore, John
2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
TBL
Schenn, Luke
800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TBL
Joseph, Mathieu
725 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
CBJ
Dubinsky, Brandon
5 850 000 $
C, AG
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TBL
Coburn, Braydon
1 700 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1

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19 oct à 6 h 12
#1
Rejoint: avr 2020
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think CBJ does this because Raddysh is better than Karlberg and Dubi is 100% insured, so why not.
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19 oct à 6 h 55
#2
Rejoint: jun 2018
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yeah none of those players are signing for that.
Especially the term given those horribly low deals.

TB needs to move a lot of cap out. They are going to have to pay up to do it as the guys they want to move no one really wants.
19 oct à 7 h 13
#3
Rejoint: jui 2018
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How does this help Tampa in getting under the cap? Adding a player on the LTIR doesn't mean you can spend an additional 5M. Salarycap stays at 81.5M, but the AAV of players on the LTIR doesn't count against the cap (as long as they're on the LTIR).

Your team is still nearly 5M above the cap and your RFA's will cost more than you have. So this doesn't work at all
19 oct à 7 h 58
#4
Go Wings Go
Rejoint: jun 2016
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You essentially overpay Cernak and vastly underpay both Cirelli and Sergachev. Both are at least $1 million under what they should receive.
19 oct à 8 h 24
#5
Rejoint: sep 2020
Messages: 99
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Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
think CBJ does this because Raddysh is better than Karlberg and Dubi is 100% insured, so why not.


I think CBJ could get a bit more out of this trade. Gotta know TBL is under heavy pressure to get their young guys signed, so I’d try and leverage for maybe an additional draft pick, at least.

Though yeah, I don’t think Cirelli and Sergachev are signing for that low...
19 oct à 8 h 40
#6
FireDougWilson
Rejoint: mai 2017
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
You essentially overpay Cernak and vastly underpay both Cirelli and Sergachev. Both are at least $1 million under what they should receive.


No way Serg gets just 400K less than McAvoy in a flat cap considering McAvoy is much better
19 oct à 8 h 50
#7
Rejoint: nov 2017
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you...you aren't under the cap
19 oct à 8 h 55
#8
LongtimeLeafsufferer
Rejoint: jui 2015
Messages: 33,172
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You really can't increase your cap by trading for players on LTIR.
Now maybe you can be more cap compliant if the Tampa is "fortunate" enough to have a one of their own...like Stamkos, Kucherov on season ending LTIR.
Sure a player like Johnson might be useful in a trade and scenario you laid out if a team had a season ending LTIR player. But no teams wants Johnson for 5m X 4 years. One year maybe.
19 oct à 8 h 58
#9
Rejoint: sep 2020
Messages: 734
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You need the following cap space

Sergachev 7M but he might give a 1 year break at 4.5M
Cirelli 6M but he might give a 1 year break at 4M
Cernak 4M but he might give a 1 year break at 2M

All 3 will not take these salary breaks knowing that the following year there isn’t more money for them to receive. Bridge deals are meant to be a 1-2 year discount knowing that cap space will open for a nice payday and for the player to improve and show he’s worth that $. All 3 earned the big payday and won a Stanley cup doing so. Now 1 of these guys might take the pay cut to stay but not all 3. Those trades aren’t great value given the circumstances. TJ was available for free just a week or 2 ago, teams want retentions or a payday to help. Not a “slight” better. TJ with 1M retained and a 1st is likely what gets him moved. So 4M + 2.8M in cap space locks in Serga for a handful of years. Now you need to move another 7-10M to lock the others in. Only Stamkos could do this for you while losing 1 player, the captain?!....Killorn and gourde?? Reality sinks in that either big moves need to be made or the other option is offer sheets and trading these RFAs away(not all 3).
19 oct à 12 h 41
#10
Démarrer sujet
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 364
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Guys, read the LTIR FAQ on this page. You can exceed the 81,5M ceiling by the cap hit of the injured player.
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