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Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 18 oct. 2020
Publié: 18 oct. 2020
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In my talks with Danault it became clear that I had to make a choice. Keep him for the year or find a deal that made sense for us now.
Contract talks blew off and I decided to move him with a package to Florida who’s in need of just about everything right now. Basically beyond Ekblad and Barkov they’re gonna be doing some major retooling and this trade helps them get there.
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18 oct. 2020 à 22 h 41
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Quoting: Bigshame
Ok thanks for your input.
Danault 2C maybe the contract needs to be signed before the trade to make it better for Florida. Lekhonen is what you say he is but rfa not ufa. 1st and 2nd round picks are not table scraps Harris has potential to fit in top 4 and Kulak is a bridge piece to hold them over till Harris gets there


Bergevin is playing a dangerous game with Danault habs will be a solid team this year he has made great moves and the draft seems to have gone well . The problem is TATAR , DANAULT , ARMIA will all be ufas after this season if mtl is doing well they will not be able to just trade them away at the trade deadline they will walk for free with no compensation after this year that is why Danault is complaining publicly he does not want to play 3c he wants 5.5 and up he will not get that from the habs or any other team if they play him at 3c and his point totals go down . Seattle will have lots of cap space to sign these types of players this is why allot of 1yr contracts have been signed this year . Habs will also have to resign KK next season and Suzuki the year after cap space will be tight
18 oct. 2020 à 22 h 41
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He deserves it no? Come back and sign Danault


I was think about if the fans don't care then no one should.
18 oct. 2020 à 22 h 45
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Quoting: Bigshame
Ok thanks for your input.
Danault 2C maybe the contract needs to be signed before the trade to make it better for Florida. Lekhonen is what you say he is but rfa not ufa. 1st and 2nd round picks are not table scraps Harris has potential to fit in top 4 and Kulak is a bridge piece to hold them over till Harris gets there


Bergevin is playing a dangerous game with Danault habs will be a solid team this year he has made great moves and the draft seems to have gone well . The problem is TATAR , DANAULT , ARMIA will all be ufas after this season if mtl is doing well they will not be able to just trade them away at the trade deadline they will walk for free with no compensation after this year that is why Danault is complaining publicly he does not want to play 3c he wants 5.5 and up he will not get that from the habs or any other team if they play him at 3c and his point totals go down . Seattle will have lots of cap space to sign these types of players this is why allot of 1yr contracts have been signed this year . Habs will also have to resign KK next season and Suzuki the year after cap space will be tight
18 oct. 2020 à 22 h 48
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
If they decided to trade Domi, they're not trading Danault. They traded Domi, so Danault's staying unless they find a good 3C somewhere.


they'll trade danault next year. they have too many centers and they won't have the cap space to resign Danault
18 oct. 2020 à 22 h 48
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Quoting: babouie
Bergevin is playing a dangerous game with Danault habs will be a solid team this year he has made great moves and the draft seems to have gone well . The problem is TATAR , DANAULT , ARMIA will all be ufas after this season if mtl is doing well they will not be able to just trade them away at the trade deadline they will walk for free with no compensation after this year that is why Danault is complaining publicly he does not want to play 3c he wants 5.5 and up he will not get that from the habs or any other team if they play him at 3c and his point totals go down . Seattle will have lots of cap space to sign these types of players this is why allot of 1yr contracts have been signed this year . Habs will also have to resign KK next season and Suzuki the year after cap space will be tight


In my books Danault will be splitting 1C with Suzuki this year. He will get his usual linemates along with his usual task of going against the top 2 lines of other teams. Kk will be 3C until he proves he’s ready full time. Suzuki may even have a step back you never know. Danault is very important this year for them and I think if it comes down to it they let Tatar and Armia walk if they can keep Danault.
18 oct. 2020 à 22 h 49
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Bergevin is playing a dangerous game with Danault habs will be a solid team this year he has made great moves and the draft seems to have gone well . The problem is TATAR , DANAULT , ARMIA will all be ufas after this season if mtl is doing well they will not be able to just trade them away at the trade deadline they will walk for free with no compensation after this year that is why Danault is complaining publicly he does not want to play 3c he wants 5.5 and up he will not get that from the habs or any other team if they play him at 3c and his point totals go down . Seattle will have lots of cap space to sign these types of players this is why allot of 1yr contracts have been signed this year . Habs will also have to resign KK next season and Suzuki the year after cap space will be tight


they arent gonna resign armia or tatar. they'll trade them or let them walk in FA. Danault is the tricky one, and I wouldn't mind losing him. Habs have enough depth.
18 oct. 2020 à 22 h 56
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In my books Danault will be splitting 1C with Suzuki this year. He will get his usual linemates along with his usual task of going against the top 2 lines of other teams. Kk will be 3C until he proves he’s ready full time. Suzuki may even have a step back you never know. Danault is very important this year for them and I think if it comes down to it they let Tatar and Armia walk if they can keep Danault.


The writing is on the wall for Danault no ones comes out publicly complaining in montreal about playing time and usage publicly saying he does not want to play 3c and stays on the team . SUZUKI looks like a star in the making KK looked like he took a giant step in the playoffs they both have higher potential then Danault . Danault is 27 yrs old fully developed and hitting his prime he is what he is . ( 13 goals highest output to date in 7 yrs nhl and 2 yrs ahl ) if a player can not score more then 13 goals in the ahl and can not score more then 13 a season in 7 nhl seasons he is what he is . Playing KK or SUZUKI AT 3C will only slow down or stunt there development
18 oct. 2020 à 23 h 6
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they arent gonna resign armia or tatar. they'll trade them or let them walk in FA. Danault is the tricky one, and I wouldn't mind losing him. Habs have enough depth.


My guess is they keep Danault as a safety gap to see if Poehling takes the next step to take over as 3c next year . But like I said then you lose him for nothing after this season . What BERGEVIN should do is package him and pics or prospects to get a true top 2 LD ( young ) and hope that Poehling or Evans ( I do not think so he is more a 4c type of guy ) can fill in at 3c or go out and sign Brassard or Boyle to play 3c . This way the d is solid as are the forwards . Either way habs will not be a joke this year they are a young and upcoming team
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The writing is on the wall for Danault no ones comes out publicly complaining in montreal about playing time and usage publicly saying he does not want to play 3c and stays on the team . SUZUKI looks like a star in the making KK looked like he took a giant step in the playoffs they both have higher potential then Danault . Danault is 27 yrs old fully developed and hitting his prime he is what he is . ( 13 goals highest output to date in 7 yrs nhl and 2 yrs ahl ) if a player can not score more then 13 goals in the ahl and can not score more then 13 a season in 7 nhl seasons he is what he is . Playing KK or SUZUKI AT 3C will only slow down or stunt there development


I agree with most of this except mtl/Julien loves to roll his lines and spread the ice time out. He also loves Danault. Kk at 3C for another year will not stunt his growth if he’s getting 15 mins and playing with guys like toffoli Armia or Byron. Suzuki is bound to be a stud but banking on that right now without Danault to help shelter him can backfire. Tatar Danault Gallagher serve a massive purpose on this team and that won’t change this year I don’t think. Maybe less minutes so that the othe 2 lines can get their fair share
18 oct. 2020 à 23 h 34
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I agree with most of this except mtl/Julien loves to roll his lines and spread the ice time out. He also loves Danault. Kk at 3C for another year will not stunt his growth if he’s getting 15 mins and playing with guys like toffoli Armia or Byron. Suzuki is bound to be a stud but banking on that right now without Danault to help shelter him can backfire. Tatar Danault Gallagher serve a massive purpose on this team and that won’t change this year I don’t think. Maybe less minutes so that the othe 2 lines can get their fair share

My guess is they keep Danault as a safety gap to see if Poehling takes the next step to take over as 3c next year . But like I said then you lose him for nothing after this season . What BERGEVIN should do is package him and pics or prospects to get a true top 2 LD ( young ) and hope that Poehling or Evans ( I do not think so he is more a 4c type of guy ) can fill in at 3c or go out and sign Brassard or Boyle to play 3c . This way the d is solid as are the forwards . Either way habs will not be a joke this year they are a young and upcoming team
18 oct. 2020 à 23 h 37
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Habs have no centerman capable of replacing Danault. Poehling is no where near ready and there are no prospects coming anytime soon at centre. Bergevin is gonna have to overpay for a 3rd line center because he as no one else. probably gonna be 5 x 5M.
18 oct. 2020 à 23 h 50
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I agree with most of this except mtl/Julien loves to roll his lines and spread the ice time out. He also loves Danault. Kk at 3C for another year will not stunt his growth if he’s getting 15 mins and playing with guys like toffoli Armia or Byron. Suzuki is bound to be a stud but banking on that right now without Danault to help shelter him can backfire. Tatar Danault Gallagher serve a massive purpose on this team and that won’t change this year I don’t think. Maybe less minutes so that the othe 2 lines can get their fair share


I don't think habs will have a "3c" per say. Lets assume the lines? Say we agree that Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson is one line. that's probably our first line. than we have two 2nd lines, because we have top 6 talent on both lines. one like, as far as im assuming, will be Byron/Armia/Lehkonen-KK-Toffoli, and the other line will be the Tatar-Danault-Gallaghar line. So I don't think we're going to have a 3rd line per say. If KK performs offensively, his line will be ahead of Danaults line, but the Danault line just clicks in every circumstance. it'll be interesting to see at least. Our depth is impressive.
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I don't think habs will have a "3c" per say. Lets assume the lines? Say we agree that Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson is one line. that's probably our first line. than we have two 2nd lines, because we have top 6 talent on both lines. one like, as far as im assuming, will be Byron/Armia/Lehkonen-KK-Toffoli, and the other line will be the Tatar-Danault-Gallaghar line. So I don't think we're going to have a 3rd line per say. If KK performs offensively, his line will be ahead of Danaults line, but the Danault line just clicks in every circumstance. it'll be interesting to see at least. Our depth is impressive.


It does make a difference top lines get 20 to 23 minutes per game 2nd lines get 17 to 21 minutes per game 3rd lines get 12 to 16 minutes and 4th lines get 8 to 12 . Danault is habs strongest face off man and best pk center . If julien tries to keep these pairings Gallagher gets less icetime . In my opinion Andersson and gallagher are the top right wings and drouin and toffoli the top left wings leaving tatar to play with danault and armia or lehkonen which makes sense as all three are strong defensively
19 oct. 2020 à 0 h 23
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It does make a difference top lines get 20 to 23 minutes per game 2nd lines get 17 to 21 minutes per game 3rd lines get 12 to 16 minutes and 4th lines get 8 to 12 . Danault is habs strongest face off man and best pk center . If julien tries to keep these pairings Gallagher gets less icetime . In my opinion Andersson and gallagher are the top right wings and drouin and toffoli the top left wings leaving tatar to play with danault and armia or lehkonen which makes sense as all three are strong defensively[/quotquote=Price_is_the_goat;1893747]I don't think habs will have a "3c" per say. Lets assume the lines? Say we agree that Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson is one line. that's probably our first line. than we have two 2nd lines, because we have top 6 talent on both lines. one like, as far as im assuming, will be Byron/Armia/Lehkonen-KK-Toffoli, and the other line will be the Tatar-Danault-Gallaghar line. So I don't think we're going to have a 3rd line per say. If KK performs offensively, his line will be ahead of Danaults line, but the Danault line just clicks in every circumstance. it'll be interesting to see at least. Our depth is impressive.


Andersson was brought in to play rw with suzuki and drouin because both are undersized light weights in my opinion . Specifically with Suzuki . in fact i would even go as far as to say you will probably see toffoli , suzuki , andersson line by the end of the season . Toffoli was an amazing signing probably the steal of free agency considering what he signed for , I have seen him play many games ( i watch allot of west coast games ) really underrated complete player
19 oct. 2020 à 0 h 29
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My guess is they keep Danault as a safety gap to see if Poehling takes the next step to take over as 3c next year . But like I said then you lose him for nothing after this season . What BERGEVIN should do is package him and pics or prospects to get a true top 2 LD ( young ) and hope that Poehling or Evans ( I do not think so he is more a 4c type of guy ) can fill in at 3c or go out and sign Brassard or Boyle to play 3c . This way the d is solid as are the forwards . Either way habs will not be a joke this year they are a young and upcoming team


Andersson was brought in to play rw with suzuki and drouin because both are undersized light weights in my opinion . Specifically with Suzuki . in fact i would even go as far as to say you will probably see toffoli , suzuki , andersson line by the end of the season . Toffoli was an amazing signing probably the steal of free agency considering what he signed for , I have seen him play many games ( i watch allot of west coast games ) really underrated complete player
19 oct. 2020 à 7 h 25
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It does make a difference top lines get 20 to 23 minutes per game 2nd lines get 17 to 21 minutes per game 3rd lines get 12 to 16 minutes and 4th lines get 8 to 12 . Danault is habs strongest face off man and best pk center . If julien tries to keep these pairings Gallagher gets less icetime . In my opinion Andersson and gallagher are the top right wings and drouin and toffoli the top left wings leaving tatar to play with danault and armia or lehkonen which makes sense as all three are strong defensively


Yes typically that is the case with most teams the ice time breakdowns usually flood to the top lines. But with this depth and the way we’ve seen Julien roll his lines I see it more likely in mtl that the top 9 whoever it may be pairings wise will be less than 20-23 minutes high end and more than 12 low end. Especially with the centre’s being so young and the value the Danault line brings. It am assuming it’ll be more like 19-17-15 minutes for the top 3 and whatever is left for line 4. Based on who is most effective and what type of situations lay (pk/pp) from game to game and the development of chemistry thru the season. Our top line is not elite at this point and our 3rd line is incredibly talented compared to most so I would think Julien would continue his way of rolling them all to wear out other teams top lines and outlast them in most games with relentless attack and pressure. That was his game plan last year early on and it worked until injuries derailed us hard. With this depth we can withstand injuries a lot better this time around.
19 oct. 2020 à 12 h 4
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It does make a difference top lines get 20 to 23 minutes per game 2nd lines get 17 to 21 minutes per game 3rd lines get 12 to 16 minutes and 4th lines get 8 to 12 . Danault is habs strongest face off man and best pk center . If julien tries to keep these pairings Gallagher gets less icetime . In my opinion Andersson and gallagher are the top right wings and drouin and toffoli the top left wings leaving tatar to play with danault and armia or lehkonen which makes sense as all three are strong defensively


I disagree. each line after teh frist line can get the same amount of minutes. and you don't split up one of the most underrated lines in the league in danault tatar gally.
 
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