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Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 16 oct. 2020
Publié: 16 oct. 2020
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I don't think many are realizing this unfortunate truth, but the Rangers actually have to CLEAR cap space to get our favorite ELC rookies like Vitali Kravtsov or Morgan Barron playing time, because of their player bonuses. While player bonuses are all just "potential salary" meaning that they likely won't give out 100% of it, the front office needs to account for that money.

The performance bonus allotment is $6.1125 million. All spending above that budget counts toward the salary cap, but CapFriendly does not include it in the "Cap Hit" measurement.

Already, the Rangers lose $3.95 million, accounting for the grand total of performance bonuses for Laffy, Shesty, Kakko, Fox, Chytil, Lindgren, and Goat.

If you created a Rangers team for 2020-21 that included those 7 players, but the CapFriendly cap hit was over $77,550,000, you actually put the Rangers above the salary cap for this season.

Both Kravtsov and Barron have $850K player bonuses attached to their ELCs. So theoretically, both of their cap hits would be $1.75M if they were in the NHL. Chances are, that will be cutting it close with the salary cap ceiling, especially if (or, when) Strome and Lemieux are re-signed.

In one of my previous teams I created, I mentioned that the prime goals for the front office was to allocate salary cap for NEXT SEASON. Along with the impending RFAs for 2021, this is exactly why they have to do so. So forget about offer sheeting Anthony Cirelli.


So I know this will disappoint those who were looking forward to seeing our prospects this year, but you aren't completely out of luck. K'Andre Miller's player bonus is only $300K instead of $850K. He is the rookie that I can confidently envision playing many games with the Rangers this year.
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16 oct. 2020 à 14 h 53
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People just don’t see the bigger Picture lmfao
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What prospects and left out? I don't see that off the roster that should be on the roster
16 oct. 2020 à 14 h 59
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Lafreniere will check the bonus boxes like if they were a groceries list!

Cant the team just get a penalty on next year's cap IF the bonuses matérialize and make them over this season?
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People just don’t see the bigger Picture lmfao


For the most part I don't blame them, because many are just unaware that they actually made a team that went over the salary cap. I wish CapFriendly made that clearer
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What prospects and left out? I don't see that off the roster that should be on the roster


Can you clarify what you are asking me?
16 oct. 2020 à 15 h 1
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Good explanation of the rules, actually really helpful. I believe the Blackhawks had an issue with this last season, which some people pointed out to me. Those bonuses the Rangers have are insane, $2.85 MM each for Shesterkin and Lafreniere and $2.65 MM for Kakko, plus all of the cheaper amounts on other ELCs. The price of luck at the lottery table I suppose
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Lafreniere will check the bonus boxes like if they were a groceries list!

Cant the team just get a penalty on next year's cap IF the bonuses matérialize and make them over this season?


I'm not 100% positive about those rules but I believe somewhere along those lines it does work that way. That being said, if the Rangers are set on giving Vitali Kravtsov hard playing time for example, it's probably more worth it to do a Brendan Smith trade than to further sabotage the cap next year.
16 oct. 2020 à 15 h 9
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Can you clarify what you are asking me?


Sorry, your note above, (last line) made it sound like you were going to hold back prospects for salary/bonus purposes.

"So I know this will disappoint those who were looking forward to seeing our prospects this year"

So I looked though the lineup and didn't see anyone not on the lineup that otherwise should be (ie, Shesty, Laf, etc). Lundkvist isn't signed. Miller isn't ready (maybe mid-season). Kravtsov is seasoning in KHL. Schneider hasn't signed and probably not ready. Jones is still in college. It appears to me that everyone that should be in the line-up is there.

Who was held back?
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Quoting: mhroblak
I'm not 100% positive about those rules but I believe somewhere along those lines it does work that way. That being said, if the Rangers are set on giving Vitali Kravtsov hard playing time for example, it's probably more worth it to do a Brendan Smith trade than to further sabotage the cap next year.


That's sort of how it works.

Performance Bonuses and Carryovers
Performance Bonuses

Performance Bonuses are paid to players based on their achievements and are not guaranteed. Only certain players are eligible for performance bonuses in their contract:

-Entry-Level Contract Players

-Players that are 35 years or older and sign a 1 year contract

-Players with a minimum of 400 NHL Games Played signing a 1 year contract after having a long-term injury. A long-term injury is defined as a player on Injured Reserve for a minimum of 100 days in the last year.

While performance bonuses count against the salary cap, teams are permitted to exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses, to a maximum of 7.5% of the Salary Cap.

If a team exceeds the Salary Cap due to performance bonuses, then any amount over the Salary Cap is considered a Bonus Carryover, and counts against the cap in the next season.
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We can still pick up Cirelli if we get rid of Strome
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Sorry, your note above, (last line) made it sound like you were going to hold back prospects for salary/bonus purposes.

"So I know this will disappoint those who were looking forward to seeing our prospects this year"

So I looked though the lineup and didn't see anyone not on the lineup that otherwise should be (ie, Shesty, Laf, etc). Lundkvist isn't signed. Miller isn't ready (maybe mid-season). Kravtsov is seasoning in KHL. Schneider hasn't signed and probably not ready. Jones is still in college. It appears to me that everyone that should be in the line-up is there.

Who was held back?




Ah, I see the confusion. I was more referring to a general trend I had observed with many of the Rangers Armchair GM teams. A lot of them had Vitali Kravtsov in a middle 6 role, some had Morgan Barron as the 4C, etc. Guys like them were the ones I meant would be "held back" in a sense, despite whether they are NHL ready or not.
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We can still pick up Cirelli if we get rid of Strome


Even if we do, I can't see Tampa Bay deciding not to match an offer sheet, even with their cap constraints. They would have to shed multiple players, but they will figure out how to get it done.
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While performance bonuses count against the salary cap, teams are permitted to exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses, to a maximum of 7.5% of the Salary Cap.

If a team exceeds the Salary Cap due to performance bonuses, then any amount over the Salary Cap is considered a Bonus Carryover, and counts against the cap in the next season.


It's this part that's still unclear to me. Does the bonus carryover only apply if bonuses push a team over the Salary Cap + 7.5%? Or does it apply if bonuses cause a team to go over the standard $81.5M cap?

To use your lineup as an example:

$76,770,633 cap hit plus $10,062,500 bonus = $86,833,133

Now that number assumes that every player checks all the boxes for their full bonuses, but in the unlikely event that happens, NYR is on the hook for a $5,333,133 cap hit in 2021-22 due to bonus overage?
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It's this part that's still unclear to me. Does the bonus carryover only apply if bonuses push a team over the Salary Cap + 7.5%? Or does it apply if bonuses cause a team to go over the standard $81.5M cap?

To use your lineup as an example:

$76,770,633 cap hit plus $10,062,500 bonus = $86,833,133

Now that number assumes that every player checks all the boxes for their full bonuses, but in the unlikely event that happens, NYR is on the hook for a $5,333,133 cap hit in 2021-22 due to bonus overage?



Don't forget that you are allowed $6,115,000M before you look at performance bonuses that count toward the salary cap. My example has a $76,770,633 cap hit + $3,950,000 extra player bonues which equals an $80,720,633 hit. Which is under the $81,500,000 maximum.

But let's say the final hit was $82,500,000 for example, after you include the performance bonuses. Don't count me on this, but I believe that extra $1,000,000 will count towards the 2021-22 salary cap. Rokk, correct me if I'm wrong
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Performance bonuses only count towards the cap if they're earned. So if you have a bonus that kicks in if you win the Calder, then you don't win the Calder, then that bonus doesn't count against the cap. The reported bonus by the CapFriendly website is the maximum potential performance bonuses included in all ELC and 35+ contracts. It is literally impossible to reach that full amount (2 players can't win the Calder).

After all the performance bonuses are calculated at the end of the season, any overage that puts the team over the salary cap gets rolled over to the following season. So if the Rangers had a final cap hit of $80M, and the combined earned performance bonuses were $5M, $3.5M in overages would be added to the 2021-22 salary cap hit.

LTIR rules are a little wonky when it comes to bonuses as well. If at any time during the year the Rangers have to use LTIR space (not just put a player on LTIR, but actually exceed the cap and receive cap relief for a replacement player), then 100% of earned performance bonuses are rolled over to the following year, regardless of how much cap space is remaining at the end of the season. We saw this happen to Toronto a couple seasons ago, preventing them from taking on deadline acquisitions, lest they get hit with the performance bonus rollover penalty on Matthews, Marner, Nylander, etc.
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After all the performance bonuses are calculated at the end of the season, any overage that puts the team over the salary cap gets rolled over to the following season. So if the Rangers had a final cap hit of $80M, and the combined earned performance bonuses were $5M, $3.5M in overages would be added to the 2021-22 salary cap hit..


This makes sense, but then where does the allowance to go 7.5% over the cap due to performance bonuses come into play?

EDIT: Talking about this bit in CapFriendly's CBA FAQ:

"Performance bonuses count against the salary cap; however, a team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit."
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This makes sense, but then where does the allowance to go 7.5% over the cap due to performance bonuses come into play?

EDIT: Talking about this bit in CapFriendly's CBA FAQ:

"Performance bonuses count against the salary cap; however, a team can exceed the salary cap due to performance bonuses by the maximum performance bonus cushion amount of 7.5 percent of the upper limit."


This is covered under 50.5 (h)(i) and (h)(iii).

Quoting: NHL CBA 50.5 (h)
(i) "The cash amount of any Performance Bonuses contained in an SPC that becomes impossible to earn in a given League Year shall, at that time, be deducted from the Club's Averaged Club Salary."

(iii) "Performance Bonuses that may be earned by Players pursuant to Section 50.2(b)(i)(C) above, provided that under no circumstances may a Club's Averaged Club Salary so exceed the Upper Limit by an amount greater than the result of seven-and-one-half (7.5) percent multiplied by the Upper Limit (the 'Performance Bonus Cushion')"


So at the beginning of the year, 100% of the bonuses count against the cap, and the team cannot exceed the cap by more than the 7.5% rule. So the maximum amount of performance bonuses they can carry on opening night is $6.1125M. However, as the season progresses and certain bonuses become unattainable, the bonus cap hit for those contracts are reduced, and therefore more bonus contracts can be added mid-season.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Performance bonuses only count towards the cap if they're earned. So if you have a bonus that kicks in if you win the Calder, then you don't win the Calder, then that bonus doesn't count against the cap. The reported bonus by the CapFriendly website is the maximum potential performance bonuses included in all ELC and 35+ contracts. It is literally impossible to reach that full amount (2 players can't win the Calder).

After all the performance bonuses are calculated at the end of the season, any overage that puts the team over the salary cap gets rolled over to the following season. So if the Rangers had a final cap hit of $80M, and the combined earned performance bonuses were $5M, $3.5M in overages would be added to the 2021-22 salary cap hit.

LTIR rules are a little wonky when it comes to bonuses as well. If at any time during the year the Rangers have to use LTIR space (not just put a player on LTIR, but actually exceed the cap and receive cap relief for a replacement player), then 100% of earned performance bonuses are rolled over to the following year, regardless of how much cap space is remaining at the end of the season. We saw this happen to Toronto a couple seasons ago, preventing them from taking on deadline acquisitions, lest they get hit with the performance bonus rollover penalty on Matthews, Marner, Nylander, etc.



This is all correct, but it's important to prepare as much as possible for performance bonuses so you don't have to resort to overages. Theoretically, you should mark down any bonuses that multiple players on your team are eligible for, but only ONE can get at maximum. I'm not familiar with any of the specific conditions that account for specific payouts, but if you tried to get around the maximum performance bonuses you could pay by relying on the fact that not everyone can maximize their bonus, I don't think you'd be able to clear enough performance bonus money to make room for extra ELCs with more performance bonus conditions that anyone on the Rangers could attain. Especially for Kravtsov and Barron whose max potential bonus is $850K
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This is all correct, but it's important to prepare as much as possible for performance bonuses so you don't have to resort to overages. Theoretically, you should mark down any bonuses that multiple players on your team are eligible for, but only ONE can get at maximum. I'm not familiar with any of the specific conditions that account for specific payouts, but if you tried to get around the maximum performance bonuses you could pay by relying on the fact that not everyone can maximize their bonus, I don't think you'd be able to clear enough performance bonus money to make room for extra ELCs with more performance bonus conditions that anyone on the Rangers could attain. Especially for Kravtsov and Barron whose max potential bonus is $850K


Just don't add the ELCs to the roster until later in the season when some of the bonuses are no longer attainable by some players.

There are two categories of bonuses. Very important to note that not all of these bonuses are included in every contract. These are just the categories of bonuses that they are allowed to negotiate into ELCs.

"A" bonuses: Individual player performance based on position. Each category is worth $212,500 for a maximum of $850k.

Skaters
1. Ice time - Either total or TOI/GP: Top four on team for defense, Top six on team for forwards
2. Goals - 20G for forwards, 10G for defense
3. Assists - 35A for forwards, 25A for defense
4. Points - 60P for forwards, 40P for defense
5. PPG - .73 PPG for forwards, .49 PPG for defense (min 42 GP)
6. Plus/Minus - Among top 3 forwards or top 2 defense (min 42 GP)
7. Blocked shots - Among top 2 defense in blocked shots (min 42 GP - defensemen only)
8. Selected to All-Rookie Team
9. Selected to All-Star Team
10. All-Star Game MVP

Goaltenders
1. 1800 Minutes played
2. GAA greater than median GAA of all goalies (> 25GP)
3. SV% greater than median GAA of all goalies (> 25GP)
4. > 20 wins
5. Shutouts greater than median shutouts of all goalies (> 25GP)
6. Selected to All-Rookie Team
7. Selected to All-Star Team
8. All-Star Game MVP

"B" bonuses: League-wide bonuses: Maximum of $2M per season

1. Awards Bonuses
a. Up to $250k for top 5 finish in Hart
b. Up to $150k for top 3 finish in Lady Byng
c. $50k for Jennings
d. Up to $212,500 for top 3 finish in Calder
e. Up to $100k for All-Star Team selection (e.g. 1st Team/2nd Team All-Star)
f. $250k for Conn Smythe

2. Performance Bonuses
a. Up to $150k in Top 10 finish Goals/Assists/Points (among forwards or defense: different categories)
b. Up to $100k in Top 10 finish Goals/Assists/Points per game (forwards only, minimum 42 GP)
c. Up to $100k in Top 10 finish TOI or TOI/GP (defense only)
d. Up to $150k in Top 5 finish in GAA or SV% (minimum 25 GP)
e. Up to $150k in Top 5 finish in Wins
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Just don't add the ELCs to the roster until later in the season when some of the bonuses are no longer attainable by some players.

There are two categories of bonuses. Very important to note that not all of these bonuses are included in every contract. These are just the categories of bonuses that they are allowed to negotiate into ELCs.

"A" bonuses: Individual player performance based on position. Each category is worth $212,500 for a maximum of $850k.

Skaters
1. Ice time - Either total or TOI/GP: Top four on team for defense, Top six on team for forwards
2. Goals - 20G for forwards, 10G for defense
3. Assists - 35A for forwards, 25A for defense
4. Points - 60P for forwards, 40P for defense
5. PPG - .73 PPG for forwards, .49 PPG for defense (min 42 GP)
6. Plus/Minus - Among top 3 forwards or top 2 defense (min 42 GP)
7. Blocked shots - Among top 2 defense in blocked shots (min 42 GP - defensemen only)
8. Selected to All-Rookie Team
9. Selected to All-Star Team
10. All-Star Game MVP

Goaltenders
1. 1800 Minutes played
2. GAA greater than median GAA of all goalies (> 25GP)
3. SV% greater than median GAA of all goalies (> 25GP)
4. > 20 wins
5. Shutouts greater than median shutouts of all goalies (> 25GP)
6. Selected to All-Rookie Team
7. Selected to All-Star Team
8. All-Star Game MVP

"B" bonuses: League-wide bonuses: Maximum of $2M per season

1. Awards Bonuses
a. Up to $250k for top 5 finish in Hart
b. Up to $150k for top 3 finish in Lady Byng
c. $50k for Jennings
d. Up to $212,500 for top 3 finish in Calder
e. Up to $100k for All-Star Team selection (e.g. 1st Team/2nd Team All-Star)
f. $250k for Conn Smythe

2. Performance Bonuses
a. Up to $150k in Top 10 finish Goals/Assists/Points (among forwards or defense: different categories)
b. Up to $100k in Top 10 finish Goals/Assists/Points per game (forwards only, minimum 42 GP)
c. Up to $100k in Top 10 finish TOI or TOI/GP (defense only)
d. Up to $150k in Top 5 finish in GAA or SV% (minimum 25 GP)
e. Up to $150k in Top 5 finish in Wins



My goodness what did I do to deserve you LOL
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My goodness what did I do to deserve you LOL
Thank you so much for all of this info man I really appreciate it a lot smile


No problem. I'm a CBA nerd.

As you can see, there's a 42 game threshold for a lot of categories in there. So you can call a lot of players up after the 40th game of the season or after the All-Star break without having to worry about the majority of bonuses.
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