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Paying the price to fix the mess

Créé par: Ottawa_Kev
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 16 oct. 2020
Publié: 16 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Cap space created could be used to add a few more top 9 wingers and some quality nhl defense.
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  1. Russell, Kris
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
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  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
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  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
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16 oct. 2020 à 13 h 7
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16 oct. 2020 à 13 h 8
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Ya need some goalies too
16 oct. 2020 à 13 h 9
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Take out the first in the kassian deal and teams would still bite
16 oct. 2020 à 13 h 10
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I would love to think so, we need to move him now before he is scratched 60% of next season and then the cost to move him will be higher.
16 oct. 2020 à 13 h 11
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Ya need some goalies too


Nothing I can do about that, I would scratch Smith every game, but they brought him back and gave him a no move so we are screwed there.
16 oct. 2020 à 13 h 19
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Russell isn't being moved, as per Friedman's most recent 31 Thoughts, and Edmonton shouldn't pay any price to move Kassian when Seattle's likely to do it for free* next year.

*Assuming Klefbom retires and the Oilers use their buyout on Neal next offseason
16 oct. 2020 à 13 h 19
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That's not very good for Ottawa.
16 oct. 2020 à 13 h 40
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That's not very good for Ottawa.


Russell is a Melnyk Special with a $4M cap hit and $1.5M actual salary. If Russell had played junior hockey for DJ Smith he would already be a Senator.
16 oct. 2020 à 13 h 42
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Russell isn't being moved, as per Friedman's most recent 31 Thoughts, and Edmonton shouldn't pay any price to move Kassian when Seattle's likely to do it for free* next year.

*Assuming Klefbom retires and the Oilers use their buyout on Neal next offseason


I was trying to create the space needed to improve the team now, and I can not fathom Seattle taking on Kassian without Edmonton giving them a 1st for their trouble. I picked Nashville for this because they were talking about adding more grit saying that going all skill didn't work for them, Kassian definitely fits the grit not skill category.
16 oct. 2020 à 13 h 47
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I was trying to create the space needed to improve the team now, and I can not fathom Seattle taking on Kassian without Edmonton giving them a 1st for their trouble. I picked Nashville for this because they were talking about adding more grit saying that going all skill didn't work for them, Kassian definitely fits the grit not skill category.


If my above conditions are true, Seattle's going to be forced into taking either Archibald or Kassian. It's much harder to plan around taking a guy set to expire in UFA, and despite your apparent bias, Kassian is still a decent third-line forward. You're pissing away value to dump Kassian without actually improving the team now. He's not a piece where Edmonton gets better through addition via subtraction.
16 oct. 2020 à 13 h 58
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Russell isn't being moved, as per Friedman's most recent 31 Thoughts, and Edmonton shouldn't pay any price to move Kassian when Seattle's likely to do it for free* next year.

*Assuming Klefbom retires and the Oilers use their buyout on Neal next offseason


Klefbom retires?!
16 oct. 2020 à 14 h 0
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If my above conditions are true, Seattle's going to be forced into taking either Archibald or Kassian. It's much harder to plan around taking a guy set to expire in UFA, and despite your apparent bias, Kassian is still a decent third-line forward. You're pissing away value to dump Kassian without actually improving the team now. He's not a piece where Edmonton gets better through addition via subtraction.


In my view Kassian is a border line 4th line player / AHL player. Given that he is vastly overpaid, the team could make better use of the money by signing some UFAs right now that would provide more value than Kassian provides. Even if your valuation of Kassian is correct there is no way Seattle takes on a contract like that without being paid to do it. If there are teams that value Kassian as a 3rd liner we need to find them and trade him there now. We know that Tipp doesn't that is why Kassian was a healthy scratch. He has got to be moved.
16 oct. 2020 à 14 h 1
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Klefbom retires?!


That is the rumour going around, his shoulder is apparently quite messed up. Definitely going on LTIR for next season at a minimum.
16 oct. 2020 à 14 h 8
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Klefbom retires?!


His shoulder has become arthritic, and he's 27 years old. Unless he finds a means to consistently manage the pain, he has considered retirement. He didn't want to come back to play during the play-in, but did so more as a favour reportedly. I think odds are his days of playing hockey are done.

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In my view Kassian is a border line 4th line player / AHL player. Given that he is vastly overpaid, the team could make better use of the money by signing some UFAs right now that would provide more value than Kassian provides. Even if your valuation of Kassian is correct there is no way Seattle takes on a contract like that without being paid to do it. If there are teams that value Kassian as a 3rd liner we need to find them and trade him there now. We know that Tipp doesn't that is why Kassian was a healthy scratch. He has got to be moved.


Your evaluation of the player and his late cold streak do not define Kassian as a fringe fourth line forward in the NHL. His usage, TOI, and production are all in range of a typical third line player.

Is he overpaid? Absolutely. Does he take dumb penalties? Absolutely.

Seattle's required - by rules of expansion - to take at least one roster player from each team based on exposure requirements. They'll have their choice of Archibald, Khaira, Kassian, and a collection of AHL players. They can either burn their selection on an objectively worse NHL player on an expiring deal, gamble on a UFA that may not sign with them, or they can take the piece with the most objective risk-free value. That's going to be Kassian. Edmonton doesn't need a kicker. If Seattle wants one, any add-in would likely be minimal.
16 oct. 2020 à 14 h 12
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
His shoulder has become arthritic, and he's 27 years old. Unless he finds a means to consistently manage the pain, he has considered retirement. He didn't want to come back to play during the play-in, but did so more as a favour reportedly. I think odds are his days of playing hockey are done.


Oh i see
 
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