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Unorthodox Laine Deal

Créé par: Hockyluv21
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 15 oct. 2020
Publié: 15 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Two clubs work together to fix their own issues. Winnipeg has a Laine problem, and Tampa has a cap problem. Why not a mutual deal to ameliorate both?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
TBL
  1. Heinola, Ville
  2. Laine, Patrik
  3. Little, Bryan
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Cirelli, Anthony [Droits de RFA]
  2. Johnson, Tyler
  3. Sergachev, Mikhail [Droits de RFA]
2.
TBL
  1. Dzingel, Ryan
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
Rachats de contrats
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2021
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2022
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $79 099 166 $0 $500 000 $2 400 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
4 995 000 $4 995 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
5 166 666 $5 166 666 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
737 500 $737 500 $
C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
G
UFA - 8
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
5 291 667 $5 291 667 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4

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15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 19
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15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 20
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Interesting but how do you expect them to re-sign Laine next year?
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 21
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ok


Would u do it?
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 22
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Quoting: buchiegang
Interesting but how do you expect them to re-sign Laine next year?


They don't have to. Make it a 1-year rental, and decide between keeping Stamkos or Laine next year.
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 22
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Would u do it?


Its really close, I am leaning towards yes though.
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15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 24
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Of all the places in North America that Tyler Johnson might waive to, I think Winnipeg is at the very bottom of that list.
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15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 25
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Of all the places in North America that Tyler Johnson might waive to, I think Winnipeg is at the very bottom of that list.

He’s not gonna be a Tampa player lol - he’s gonna play somewhere that can fit him rather than be sent down and play in the A
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 26
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Its really close, I am leaning towards yes though.


I doubt there's a better offer then this and it's highly unlikely they'll get anything as good as this, think Laine's agent is making it clear to Chevy that he won't be signing long term so if you want to recoup something for him use this time wisely.

Really depressing news, too bad, wonder what the problem is.
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15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 26
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Of all the places in North America that Tyler Johnson might waive to, I think Winnipeg is at the very bottom of that list.


It doesn't have to be Johnson. Could be Killorn or Gourde, too.
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 26
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Nice value from Tampa, but the Jets wouldn't take Johnson without some hefty compensation and they don't need Cirelli anymore.
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 26
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
They don't have to. Make it a 1-year rental, and decide between keeping Stamkos or Laine next year.


Don’t see Stammer waiving but hey who knows!
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 27
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Quoting: Windjammer
Nice value from Tampa, but the Jets wouldn't take Johnson without some hefty compensation and they don't need Cirelli anymore.


Cirelli and Sergachev IS hefty compensation. Both make Winnipeg better right now! And the Jets would LOVE Cirelli. He'd be their first true long-term 1/2C option since Scheifele.
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15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 29
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I doubt there's a better offer then this and it's highly unlikely they'll get anything as good as this, think Laine's agent is making it clear to Chevy that he won't be signing long term so if you want to recoup something for him use this time wisely.


I would rather see him get traded now then seeing him getting dealt for a third pairing guy and a pick or leave in UFA. Cirelli would slot in at 2C immediately and the center depth for next year would be very good. Sergachev is pretty much what were hoping Heinola will be, so I don't mind that exchange. I do think Heinola has a decent chance to be a better overall player then Sergachev, but again I wouldn't mind that swap.
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 30
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
Cirelli and Sergachev IS hefty compensation. Both make Winnipeg better right now!


Not when Winnipeg is giving up Laine and Heinola. There would need to be something else for taking on Johnson and not filling team needs for Winnipeg.
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 32
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I don't know...



there are good parts and bad parts for both teams
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 33
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I would rather see him get traded now then seeing him getting dealt for a third pairing guy and a pick or leave in UFA. Cirelli would slot in at 2C immediately and the center depth for next year would be very good. Sergachev is pretty much what were hoping Heinola will be, so I don't mind that exchange. I do think Heinola has a decent chance to be a better overall player then Sergachev, but again I wouldn't mind that swap.


Depends on the return but the rest of the GM'S know the position Chevy is in so I don't think the return will be very good, considering the window the Jets are in is only really the next 4 years I'd be cool with keeping Laine and letting him walk if they load up and really go for it.
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 34
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Not when Winnipeg is giving up Laine and Heinola. There would need to be something else for taking on Johnson and not filling team needs for Winnipeg.


Cirelli and Sergachev have a combined market value, IMO, of about 3 firsts. Laine and Heinola, to me, are worth about 2 firsts combined. To me, that extra first and Little's LTIRetired contract are plenty compensation for Johnson.
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 39
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Depends on the return but the rest of the GM'S know the position Chevy is in so I don't think the return will be very good, considering the window the Jets are in is only really the next 4 years I'd be cool with keeping Laine and letting him walk if they load up and really go for it.


It's always better to let a disgruntled player go in my opinion. If we got an offer like this then I would do it rather quickly
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 42
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Cirelli and Sergachev have a combined market value, IMO, of about 3 firsts. Laine and Heinola, to me, are worth about 2 firsts combined. To me, that extra first and Little's LTIRetired contract are plenty compensation for Johnson.


You are obviously overvaluing the Tampa players while undervaluing Winnipeg players. Value wise Cirelli, Sergachev, Heinola and Laine are close to a wash, but even if you want to say theTampa players are worth more, you would still need to add in an extra first minimum to move Johnson. Little can be ignored as Winnipeg doesn't need to move him. Plus the only player that fits a team need for Winnipeg is Sergachev. As I said decent value, just notwhat Winnipeg needs if moving Laine.
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 45
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It's always better to let a disgruntled player go in my opinion. If we got an offer like this then I would do it rather quickly


I get that but I'm just doubting the return will be very good, don't think it'll be as good as this.
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 49
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I get that but I'm just doubting the return will be very good, don't think it'll be as good as this.


yeah probably not. However I really believe it would be for the best to just let it end then following the footsteps of the Trouba situation all over again.
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 50
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Laine is like a worse Stamkos
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 55
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yeah probably not. However I really believe it would be for the best to just let it end then following the footsteps of the Trouba situation all over again.


I hear ya, that was a different situation it seems, was a family issue, Chevy really should of traded Troubs sooner, these seem like much different situations to me.
I just see the window as only open for so long, having a weapon like Laine helps, unless Chevy gets some massive haul in return but I don't see it.
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