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Last Day of the 20-21 regular season roster

Créé par: Woogie
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 14 oct. 2020
Publié: 14 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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The key is that Jones and Bear demonstrate they are top 4 defensemen. If they are, now is the time to solidify a new defense. Broberg, Bouchard and Samorukov will have completed a second full season of playing against men and would be ready for 5-7 roles on the defense.

Benson and Konovalov will have completed a second full year of playing against men.

Both the defenseman and forward's European league will be finish as the NHL regular season ends, so they can join the Oilers for the play-off run.

Klefbom is a 1-2 defenseman with a year of rest and has a great contract - but you have to take Neal.

Barrie will have a great year, but is not part of the long term future with Bear and Bouchard coming along and much younger and the Oilers need more picks

Russell would be a great utility defenseman for any team looking to go deep in the play-off.

The Trade for picks could go to other teams I am just showing the value you would get.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
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14 oct. 2020 à 23 h 6
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Why would the Devils do this?
14 oct. 2020 à 23 h 11
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Why would the Devils do this?


You get a guy with a CHRONIC shoulder problem who will have missed a year while recovering and a regressing 33 year old winger with 3 more years of a grossly overpriced contract ... what's not to like? Dont worry, they only want a lottery pick in return. tears of joy
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14 oct. 2020 à 23 h 16
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Quoting: Devil1122
Why would the Devils do this?


Quoting: Opie
You get a guy with a CHRONIC shoulder problem who will have missed a year while recovering and a regressing 33 year old winger with 3 more years of a grossly overpriced contract ... what's not to like? Dont worry, they only want a lottery pick in return. tears of joy


So is Klefbom the reward for taking Neal...or Neal the reward for taking Klefbom?
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14 oct. 2020 à 23 h 22
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So is Klefbom the reward for taking Neal...or Neal the reward for taking Klefbom?


Good Question. To be fair, Klefbom is a true first pairing guy, but I fear his time as such is likely part of the past. Not worth the risk for any team, until gets back on the ice & shows the shoulder can hold up (which it has not done for quite some time now) .... I truly hope he is able to come back and reestablish himself. Good luck, Mr Klefbom.
14 oct. 2020 à 23 h 28
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So is Klefbom the reward for taking Neal...or Neal the reward for taking Klefbom?


They forgot to add McDavid to the deal
14 oct. 2020 à 23 h 34
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Quoting: Opie
You get a guy with a CHRONIC shoulder problem who will have missed a year while recovering and a regressing 33 year old winger with 3 more years of a grossly overpriced contract ... what's not to like? Dont worry, they only want a lottery pick in return. tears of joy


Quoting: NHLfan10506
So is Klefbom the reward for taking Neal...or Neal the reward for taking Klefbom?


Quoting: Devil1122
They forgot to add McDavid to the deal


Read the last sentence in the posters explanation..

The idea is Kelfbom will be good to go after he returns from LTIR and given how's he's played his career even with a chronic shoulder injury can play top minutes in all situations, I believe top 5 this past season.. this was a post about value if these trades were to happen, the teams were just used as an example. I will admit IMO Neal with Klefbom doesn't get a first. But Klefbom alone does. Also, the idea was to show how the team would look if all the prospects were to make the team after taking the time to develop.
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14 oct. 2020 à 23 h 40
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The Caps have 8 NHL-caliber defensemen under contract already and probably need to move one in order to fill out their roster while staying under the cap, so that's a very easy no. Russell's way too expensive to be a utility guy anyway.
15 oct. 2020 à 8 h 59
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Read the last sentence in the posters explanation..

The idea is Kelfbom will be good to go after he returns from LTIR and given how's he's played his career even with a chronic shoulder injury can play top minutes in all situations, I believe top 5 this past season.. this was a post about value if these trades were to happen, the teams were just used as an example. I will admit IMO Neal with Klefbom doesn't get a first. But Klefbom alone does. Also, the idea was to show how the team would look if all the prospects were to make the team after taking the time to develop.


Think about this offer from other side though. NJD takes on $30 million in contracts and the incentive is they get a d-man who wont play this year because of an injury (and has missed significant chunks of time in four of last five seasons). And in return, they give their 1st pick, likely a lottery pick.

If the offer was Neal and Klefbom for a 7th round pick, NJD still declines.
If the offer was Neal and Klefbom and Bouchard for a 7th round pick, NJD considers.

If you want to move Neal to NJ with retaining, it would take multiple high picks or very good prospect. Or of you want to send Klefbom for nothing, that would work.

Its just a brutal era.
15 oct. 2020 à 9 h 1
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Read the last sentence in the posters explanation..

The idea is Kelfbom will be good to go after he returns from LTIR and given how's he's played his career even with a chronic shoulder injury can play top minutes in all situations, I believe top 5 this past season.. this was a post about value if these trades were to happen, the teams were just used as an example. I will admit IMO Neal with Klefbom doesn't get a first. But Klefbom alone does. Also, the idea was to show how the team would look if all the prospects were to make the team after taking the time to develop.


Klefbom does not get a first. If he were 100% healthy, maybe a late 1st.
Today, right now, he gets a late pick.
15 oct. 2020 à 9 h 47
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Klefbom does not get a first. If he were 100% healthy, maybe a late 1st.
Today, right now, he gets a late pick.


As far as I can see this isn't a "right now" roster, it's based on the coming trade deadline. I mean, it's right in the title.
15 oct. 2020 à 9 h 52
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Think about this offer from other side though. NJD takes on $30 million in contracts and the incentive is they get a d-man who wont play this year because of an injury (and has missed significant chunks of time in four of last five seasons). And in return, they give their 1st pick, likely a lottery pick.

If the offer was Neal and Klefbom for a 7th round pick, NJD still declines.
If the offer was Neal and Klefbom and Bouchard for a 7th round pick, NJD considers.

If you want to move Neal to NJ with retaining, it would take multiple high picks or very good prospect. Or of you want to send Klefbom for nothing, that would work.

Its just a brutal era.


Your whole argument is erroneous because you failed to read the title. Nice.
15 oct. 2020 à 9 h 55
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I too think that there's a pretty good chance that some of these guys land on the NHL roster late in the season, as the SHL and KHL playoffs will likely be over before the NHL trade deadline occurs. I doubt Holland will trade NHL veterans to make room for them - especially as the team is expected to make the playoffs - but no doubt some of these guys will be eager to fill in for injuries and get some major league exposure. They're certainly proving themselves in the early going in Europe.
15 oct. 2020 à 11 h 59
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Your whole argument is erroneous because you failed to read the title. Nice.

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As far as I can see this isn't a "right now" roster, it's based on the coming trade deadline. I mean, it's right in the title.


Last day of regular season?

Listen, if a team is trading a 1st at the deadline, they are likely buying for playoff run. James Neal and an injured Klefbom do little for a playoff team.
And if a team is dumping cap, they usually do that in before the season begins.

My friend, these are off-season moves.
15 oct. 2020 à 16 h 36
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Think about this offer from other side though. NJD takes on $30 million in contracts and the incentive is they get a d-man who wont play this year because of an injury (and has missed significant chunks of time in four of last five seasons). And in return, they give their 1st pick, likely a lottery pick.

If the offer was Neal and Klefbom for a 7th round pick, NJD still declines.
If the offer was Neal and Klefbom and Bouchard for a 7th round pick, NJD considers.

If you want to move Neal to NJ with retaining, it would take multiple high picks or very good prospect. Or of you want to send Klefbom for nothing, that would work.

Its just a brutal era.


Quoting: NHLfan10506
Klefbom does not get a first. If he were 100% healthy, maybe a late 1st.
Today, right now, he gets a late pick.


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Last day of regular season?

Listen, if a team is trading a 1st at the deadline, they are likely buying for playoff run. James Neal and an injured Klefbom do little for a playoff team.
And if a team is dumping cap, they usually do that in before the season begins.

My friend, these are off-season moves.


The trade offers were for any team. Not specifically NJD. I definitely can't agree with you when it comes to how you value a trade package of both Neal and Klefbom. I think if Holland genuinely shopped them as a trade package there would be a few teams interested and they would get more then a 7th for both. Throw Bouchard in there and you have a few more teams calling. I get there is the cap situation right now so I do agree this wil be an offseason type of transaction. Or draft Day depending on the pick. Once Klefbom recovers he could be looking at another 5 years of solid top 4 minutes. He has value. Mid first round pick maybe more depending on the team need.
15 oct. 2020 à 18 h 18
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The trade offers were for any team. Not specifically NJD. I definitely can't agree with you when it comes to how you value a trade package of both Neal and Klefbom. I think if Holland genuinely shopped them as a trade package there would be a few teams interested and they would get more then a 7th for both. Throw Bouchard in there and you have a few more teams calling. I get there is the cap situation right now so I do agree this wil be an offseason type of transaction. Or draft Day depending on the pick. Once Klefbom recovers he could be looking at another 5 years of solid top 4 minutes. He has value. Mid first round pick maybe more depending on the team need.


If Klefbom would return a mid-first round pick, then this deal assumes a team would take Neal for nothing. If that is the case, NJD would just trade a pick for Klefbom and skip the whole Neal part.
15 oct. 2020 à 20 h 31
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If Klefbom would return a mid-first round pick, then this deal assumes a team would take Neal for nothing. If that is the case, NJD would just trade a pick for Klefbom and skip the whole Neal part.


That's what I said. Klefbom alone is worth a first. Neal is going to stay an oiler until he gets bought out in two years when he only has 1 year left(I think). And my guess is it's a team that needs a top 4 left hand D.
 
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