I like Podkolzin.

In the Pacioretty deal Vegas retained on Tatar and it was a 2nd not a 3rd. So maybe this gets done if it is Podkolzin, Roussel ($500k retained) and a 2nd.

Wouldn't Vancouver fans be kinda rattle that they lost Tofolli for nothing and then gave up one of their top prospects to get a similar playing in Gallagher back though?

4x7 would be amazing. It will be tough but shorter term with more money is the way to go. Even 4x8. But gally seems to want term

i kinda changed it up because Patches was a 5 time 30 goal scorer and i know Gally brings the intangibles but i undersold a little bit (depends on who you ask) on purpose

Yeaaahhh that’s gunna be a no from me thanks tho

i don't know how players/agents go about things but lets say he wants close $35M total...would you rather go 5x7 or 7x5

what would an ideal trade be from the VAN side

How is giving up your best prospect for a 1 year rental “ideal”

Edit: I realized you were asking what would be ideal.
Ideal would be Virtanen plus picks/prospects. Of course, Hoglander, Podkolzin, and Rathbone off the table.

Canucks wouldnt be able to afford Virtanen and gally so using him as the trade piece makes the most sense

Obviously an extension would come

Canucks can’t afford what Gally is worth on an extension unless they dump Eriksson which is near impossible. Pettersson and Hughes both due for raises next season

7x5(7 million and 5 years) easy. I’d rather give 8x4 than 6x6. I love Gallagher but he’s had 2 broken hands, a broken jaw, a concussion and a tear in his hip. He plays hard all the time. I don’t know how well he’ll age. More money over short term

Eriksson has 2x6 left. It’s not that hard to dump, just your gm doesn’t want to give up the assets to do so

yeah keep the AAV as low as possible at 7 or 8 years imo. Front load the contract so if he does break down in his mid 30's, most of the salary will be paid off, and bottom feeders will have no issues taking the contract.

OkY let’s say it costs a 1st to dump Eriksson and let’s say that OPs proposed trade is the final trade.

That means it cost Podkolzin, a 1st, and a 3rd to bring in Gally and sign him to an extension.

Imo that’s a massive cost and simply not one the Canucks can or should pay.

I said no long term. The issue isn’t salary it’s cap space. You don’t want gally at low value for 3 or 4 years making 6. 8 million over 4 years as an example

Yeah if I'm VAN I'm not paying a 1st to dump Eriksson......BUT Benning's stubbornness in not moving out guys like Sutter, Beagle, Baertschi, etc. really hurt him this offseason..... realistically give up some 2nd's and 3rd's, take the hit , and you probably still have 2 or 3 of Toffoli, Markstrom, Tanev...

If that’s how you feel that’s cool. Gallagher is a super valuable guy and I’m not saying you have a 3 year window as Pettersson and Quinn are young, but you don’t want to keep having decent teams that don’t go super far in the playoffs for a bunch of years. Yes you guys are strong and have some young talent, but I don’t know how much stronger you’ll get without a move. Gallagher makes this team scary. Podkolzin is a nice player but won’t be making top 6 large impact for a couple of more years

I know cap space is the issue.... that's why you add years on the deal to lower the AAV....

To me we want value. At 8 million he might be a little over priced but that’s easy to work with. 6 million in 4,5,6,7,8 years from now might be brutal. You want to avoid those brutal years, example Eriksson in Vancouver.

Gallagher will re-up with Montreal. That trade won't happen from the Canucks side, Podkolzin isn't going anywhere unless its for a younger player in early 20s not late 20s. Nor is there a deal that makes sense between these 2 teams. Gallagher's worth with an extension is similar to what Tampa got for JT Miller last year a 1st plus 3rd, and that was pre-covid, Miller at that time still had a 4 yrs left on his deal. Without an extension its a conditional 2nd and B prospect.

completely disagree. a high cap hit on a short term is the worst way to operate now. The salary cap isn't going up for the next 2-3 seasons, we all know this. So any "overpaying" for short term deals will absolutely hinder any chances at improving the roster on a short term.

Best bet is the salary cap will go up in 3-4 years, and a $6-$6.5mil cap hit then will become the new equivalent to a $4mil cap hit today. It still won't be pleasant to move if Gally's value starts to drop, but I highly doubt it would be as bad as Eriksson's contract today.

Easiest comparable right now for Gally's next contract is Kreider's 7 year deal. If Habs can bump it to 8 and get to AAV south of $6mil ($5.8-$5.9???)....jump for joy.

You only jump for joy for the first half, the second half might be suicidal. I truly don’t know how the second half would be but he’s had, broken hand twice, broken jaw, concussion, and a hip tear. And he’s only 28. After 32 most have a natural decline and his might be even more as the wear and tear will be large and his raw skill isn’t the best.
So he’s making 3.75 meaning that you’d move Byron to get gally to 6 million, to get to 8 you’d have to move weal. What’s the difference. 8 really doesn’t afd3ct your team anymore than 6, plus you’d end that contract at age 32. You could then see his health and performance and get a new contract done

You right, but you also proved my point. Gally at $8mil x 4 can work, just subtract Byron + Weal and you have that cap. but now you are 2 roster players short and haven't gained any "cap capital" to improve said roster. sure you can hope you prospects on ELC's can jump in, but again there's no more wiggle room for improvements via trade or future free agency.

Again the cap isn't going up for the next 2-3 years, if not longer. Right now they've only announced that it's staying flat for the 2020-2021 season, but the NHL and NHLPA agreed that the cap won't go up until League revenue goes back to $4.8 Billion. Which was the projected revenue for 2019-2020. With how the pandemic is going....that's going to take a while.

Habs will still need to improve the roster to compete, and give raises to other players than Gallagher (looking at KK and Suzuki in 1-2 years).... Keeping the cap hit of your players as low as possible is probably more crucial now for the next few seasons than ever before. You can't give EVERY player on your roster long term low aav deals, but I think in Gallaghers case, you roll the dice, and sell the decision as him being the Habs future captain and you're paying for his intangibles... the fan base and media will buy it.

If Gallagher is at 6 and you move Byron that gives you 1.15 million dollars for an extra forward which will be caufield at 900,000. No money to improve. If this team is to improve it will be by losing players like chiarot to Seattle giving you 3.5 million bucks and trading kulak. Either way you put it you have to move out large salaries, replace them with kids and sign some average third liners. Obviously Tatar and drouin are making big bucks. So your way screws us in the future and really doesn’t improve us now.
No matter what your going to have to shuffle around contracts next year. Not to mention kk and Suzuki are up soon

You're looking at it wrong. Viewing Gallagher at $6mil in the lense of today's cap hit for what the salary cap will look like in 4+ years doesn't work. but by all means, make an ACGM with Gally making $8mil in 2021-2022, and see what kind of improvements you can make....

7 percent of 84 is 5.88 and 7 percent of 81.5 is 5.705. Cap goes up quite a bit but The difference of his cap hit is nothing.