Lmao Detroit doesn’t want your crap for Mantha

"Yes hello? Steve? It's yer boiiii Don over here in Bahhhhston. Wanna trade Mantha for 4 players that we really don't want? We're also willing to toss you a 3rd and 5th as well. What? You're surprised that we're not even willing to go to next year with the 3rd rounder? Nahh, we're helping you out! 2022 3rd round is STACKED! Better than this years 1st round, if ya ask me!"

Mantha is signed for to cheap, as well as sergeachev

Pretty light on all of those offers and Mantha is going nowhere.

Even the Domi for Mantha trades weren’t this bad

every trade gets declined

None of that could happen.

That doesn't get Dunn's autograph.

I guess people don’t realize how good these players are.

Grze is a solid 2nd pairing D and 2nd round picks to sweeten that is pretty safe considering the alternative of offersheets (1st and a 3rd only).

Kase and Bjork are solid 3rd liners and both have them have 2nd line potential on the right team. Think Reilly Smith and Vatrano. Moore is a solid D considering Detroit has almost no LD after this coming season. Sweetened with 2 more picks to help with the rebuild. Not high ones, but close enough. I’d prefer Mantha for his size and goal, but Bertuzzi is another option instead. For him, what is offered is huge overpay. He and Kase are pretty darn close to even swap.

Sergachev will sign a bridge deal if structured the right way. Just like McAvoy and Carlo did, and Debrusk will do. This is why the trade va offersheet because you’ll need to pay a lot more and we want the salary for other things.

Again, offersheet could work as well. Someone will get Sergachev or Cirreli. Force TBL on one and the other becomes target #2. This is just more gentlemanly to give them a good trade and save some picks and salary.

How would you get those 3 players? Easy to sit back and poke holes but would love to see your options!!

I'm pretty sure it's you that doesn't realize how good the players you are trading for are.

Offer sheets would be good if they were in the right price range (5 years for way more $$$$). You're about 1/2 price on Dunn. And about 1M off on Mantha's and Sergachev's AAV. Beyond that any time you start adding more than 2 players and less than 2x 1st round picks to a trade of a RFA on a team with a 18M in cap space just stop typing.