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Burns to PHI for Ghost and a 1st Offer Sheeting Cirelli and SJ Acquire Demers

Créé par: CheechYou
Équipe: 2020-21 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 12 oct. 2020
Publié: 12 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Protections:

F: meier labanc hertl cirelli couture kane donato
D: vlasic karlsson simek
G: dubnyk (1yr extension and doing it immediately after the season so it doesn't affect Jones' play during the season and/or rights to him without the extension if that works)

Jones selected by SEA.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
56 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 250 000 $
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Heed, Tim
11 000 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Cirelli, Anthony6 500 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Gostisbehere, Shayne
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
Top-5 Protected
2.
3.
SJS
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (OTT)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
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2022
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Logo de OTT
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $76 140 833 $0 $232 500 $5 359 167 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
4 725 000 $4 725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
736 666 $736 666 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
3 937 500 $3 937 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 166 667 $2 166 667 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Heed, Tim
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
700 000 $700 000 $
C
UFA - 1

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12 oct. 2020 à 20 h 11
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There is no reason for Philly to take Burn's contract. Look at how hard it is for Vegas to get rid of Fleury right now.
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12 oct. 2020 à 20 h 14
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We’d never get that for burns unless he’s playing unreal by TDL and even then we’d probably get less
12 oct. 2020 à 20 h 25
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More like San Jose gives the 1st rounder
12 oct. 2020 à 20 h 25
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Modifié 12 oct. 2020 à 20 h 39
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There is no reason for Philly to take Burn's contract. Look at how hard it is for Vegas to get rid of Fleury right now.


PHI desperately needs help -- particularly offense -- at RD. Swap the 1st for a 2nd if you like but there should be interest there at the least for this deal, if not heavy pushing IMO.

PHI getting Gustafsson today means Ghost is pure dead weight combining his play and his contract.
12 oct. 2020 à 20 h 33
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There is no reason for Philly to take Burn's contract. Look at how hard it is for Vegas to get rid of Fleury right now.


Burns still has a lot of value in terms of play. He's far from washed up and still elite offensively and not bad defensively (he's actually improved the last two years in that department). His contract term is bad, but it's a move that's good for PHI for the next 3 years especially in this deal where SJ is taking back Ghost so it's a net change of 3.5mil extra for PHI for the next 3yrs to have Burns instead of Ghost. PHI should take that and run not just bc of the Ghost aspect, but far more importantly because they sorely, sorely need offense from the point.

There's a giant glaring hole in PHI's top-4 RH-side defense, and overall offensive production from their total defense. Unlike teams who are pretty okay with their goaltending so there's no need to take on Fleury, PHI is basically out of options when it comes to getting at least good offensive production from the RH-side on the point. DeMelo's gone, Brodie and Barrie are gone, Petro's now gone, and on top of that, Nisky's now gone too so there's an even bigger hole there.

Besides, they always have the option to leave Burns exposed next year to SEA and have him likely be selected. Then it'd be getting rid of Ghost and one full year of Burns for the going rate price of a rental: a protected 1st or a 2nd+3rd rounder. Worst case they keep Burns and have Voracek's cap come off the books instead.
12 oct. 2020 à 21 h 22
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Quoting: CheechYou
Burns still has a lot of value in terms of play. He's far from washed up and still elite offensively and not bad defensively (he's actually improved the last two years in that department). His contract term is bad, but it's a move that's good for PHI for the next 3 years especially in this deal where SJ is taking back Ghost so it's a net change of 3.5mil extra for PHI for the next 3yrs to have Burns instead of Ghost. PHI should take that and run not just bc of the Ghost aspect, but far more importantly because they sorely, sorely need offense from the point.

There's a giant glaring hole in PHI's top-4 RH-side defense, and overall offensive production from their total defense. Unlike teams who are pretty okay with their goaltending so there's no need to take on Fleury, PHI is basically out of options when it comes to getting at least good offensive production from the RH-side on the point. DeMelo's gone, Brodie and Barrie are gone, Petro's now gone, and on top of that, Nisky's now gone too so there's an even bigger hole there.

Besides, they always have the option to leave Burns exposed next year to SEA and have him likely be selected. Then it'd be getting rid of Ghost and one full year of Burns for the going rate price of a rental: a protected 1st or a 2nd+3rd rounder. Worst case they keep Burns and have Voracek's cap come off the books instead.


I doubt Seattle would take Burns without a major sweetener. If PHI needs offense from the right side of defense, they can target a younger, more cost effective option. Burns is stuck in San Jose.
12 oct. 2020 à 22 h 5
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The "If" part in

Quoting: NickC1988
If PHI needs offense from the right side of defense

is telling me you're refusing to consider this trade proposal objectively and are just bent on hating on the Sharks, so no point in discussing.

And for the record "younger most cost-effective" top-pairing offensive dmen don't go on trees, come free, or take back Ghost in their deals.
12 oct. 2020 à 22 h 15
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The "If" part in


is telling me you're refusing to consider this trade proposal objectively and are just bent on hating on the Sharks, so no point in discussing.

And for the record "younger most cost-effective" top-pairing offensive dmen don't go on trees, come free, or take back Ghost in their deals.


I'm not hating on the sharks, it's just very clear that Burns has very little value and sharks fans have this weird pipe dream where he and his full contract get traded while still getting a 1st rounder back and it's completely unrealistic in a flat cap world.
12 oct. 2020 à 22 h 19
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Quoting: NickC1988
I'm not hating on the sharks, it's just very clear that Burns has very little value and sharks fans have this weird pipe dream where he and his full contract get traded while still getting a 1st rounder back and it's completely unrealistic in a flat cap world.


I'm not bent on the getting a 1st back part. On top of Burns still having value, going-rates for elite defensemen are high now (Schmidt), especially offensive ones, but I've stated throughout here I could see the protected-1st+Ghost being swapped for a 2nd+a 3rd+Ghost instead. My main point here is that this trade makes at least reasonable sense for both teams in this situation (i.e. sharks going after Cirelli, PHI needing a top-pairing offensive dman on the right side).
 
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