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Montreal Canadiens signed Tyler Toffoli (4 Years / $4,250,000 AAV)

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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 21
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Excellent job on keeping his cap hit low
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 21
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Quoting: kaljakori
How are people calling this a good contract? He has topped 50 points once and that was 5 years ago. His analytics are okay, but with that production he's a 3rd line guy.

I think he's a good player and I'd like to have him. But he's not 4x4,25 good.

Montreal need goal scoring, we've got a ton of playmaker on the team but need someone to put the damn puck in. 108 goals in the last five seasons, that's what Toffoli brings to Montreal, that's what's needed in Montreal, stable secondary scoring.

Quoting: willdog37
I guess this makes up for the Anderson contract somewhat. It's surprising Toffoli got so much less than a guy who scored 1 goal last year

Yep, the lone wolf that hasn't gotten better yet is the Florida state (TB and FLA)
Boston got Craig Smith
Detroit got their goalie and couple low key signings that could help them be better
Buffalo got Hall and Eakin
Montreal got Allen, Edmundson, Anderson and now Toffoli.
Though FA for TML but with Brodie and Bogosian at least you've helped your RD..
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 22
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Wow. I had him at 5.5x5. Crazy that he's sign for less than he was making before. He's never been a greedy player though.
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 22
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This is infuriating.. What the hell is Jim Benning doing? Hes literally made the team worse in every single position.
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 25
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Quoting: ColonelX
Montreal need goal scoring, we've got a ton of playmaker on the team but need someone to put the damn puck in. 108 goals in the last five seasons, that's what Toffoli brings to Montreal, that's what's needed in Montreal, stable secondary scoring.


Who's gonna dish him the puck? He looked great in Vancouver because he played with a near-generational talent in Pettersson. The Habs just traded their best playmaker for a guy who's job is to crash and bang in goals.
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 27
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Quoting: kaljakori
Who's gonna dish him the puck? He looked great in Vancouver because he played with a near-generational talent in Pettersson. The Habs just traded their best playmaker for a guy who's job is to crash and bang in goals.


What about Suzuki and KK??
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 28
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Quoting: kaljakori
Who's gonna dish him the puck? He looked great in Vancouver because he played with a near-generational talent in Pettersson. The Habs just traded their best playmaker for a guy who's job is to crash and bang in goals.


The team had almost non-existent goal scoring ability, mostly playmaking types. Stop with the hate.
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 28
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Quoting: kaljakori
Who's gonna dish him the puck? He looked great in Vancouver because he played with a near-generational talent in Pettersson. The Habs just traded their best playmaker for a guy who's job is to crash and bang in goals.

The fact that you value Domi as being a much better playmaker than Suzuki and Kotkaniemi is appaling.
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 29
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I didn't think this was gonna happen. I like the dollar value but He isn't a good shooter and it seems like bergevin has a fetish or something for people with bad shots. We just add and add to the number of bad shooters. If it was someone who could score or a pp specialist like Hoffman for this dollar value then that would be fine but I just don't like how his shot is bad
12 oct 2020 à 14 h 29
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Quoting: Tarlam01
What about Suzuki and KK??


Quoting: jtrev
The team had almost non-existent goal scoring ability, mostly playmaking types. Stop with the hate.


Don't bother with this guy. He is just a butthurt Leafs fan.
It's pretty telling when the only people saying this is bad are Leafs fans.
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 29
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I like the signing but how did Josh Anderson get 1.5 more
12 oct 2020 à 14 h 31
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Quoting: kaljakori
How are people calling this a good contract? He has topped 50 points once and that was 5 years ago. His analytics are okay, but with that production he's a 3rd line guy.

I think he's a good player and I'd like to have him. But he's not 4x4,25 good.


When he played with a good Vancouver team he was point per game
12 oct 2020 à 14 h 31
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Quoting: Norm31
I didn't think this was gonna happen. I like the dollar value but He isn't a good shooter and it seems like bergevin has a fetish or something for people with bad shots. We just add and add to the number of bad shooters. If it was someone who could score or a pp specialist like Hoffman for this dollar value then that would be fine but I just don't like how his shot is bad


Toffoli is a superior player in all other aspects than PP
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 31
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This is a very good signing. One thing Habs fans should look for: we used to put him out for the last shift on the PK because he was frequently dangerous on that transition as the perpetrator came out of the box.
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 32
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 33
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Quoting: dc64
Don't bother with this guy. He is just a butthurt Leafs fan.
It's pretty telling when the only people saying this is bad are Leafs fans.


Literally the comment before yours is a Habs fan who has questions about this signing.

Although I think MTL got better today no doubt.
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 35
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Quoting: kaljakori
How are people calling this a good contract? He has topped 50 points once and that was 5 years ago. His analytics are okay, but with that production he's a 3rd line guy.

I think he's a good player and I'd like to have him. But he's not 4x4,25 good.


Third liners don't score 20 goals.
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 35
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Quoting: thelastlongbow
Literally the comment before yours is a Habs fan who has questions about this signing.

Although I think MTL got better today no doubt.


Who is quite off thinking Hoffman would be better.

Ya this surprised me big time. I had no idea they were even in on him. I can't believe Van let him walk
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 36
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Quoting: jtrev
Toffoli is a superior player in all other aspects than PP


compared to Hoffman yes. But we need someone with a good shot and Toffoli doesn't provide that. Hopefully we get kovalchuk as he can be the answer for us
12 oct 2020 à 14 h 39
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Fantastic deal for the Canadiens.
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 41
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Quoting: Jay27
Third liners don't score 20 goals.


So you're telling me guys like Cody Eakin and Frank Vatrano are top-6 players? Well I'll be damned.
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 42
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Full disclaimer I'm not as big on Toffoli as others. With that, his 5v5 production over the last 3 years is on par with Craig Smith who gets less TOI and signed for $1.2 million less.
12 oct 2020 à 14 h 42
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Quoting: Jay27
Third liners don't score 20 goals.


Craig Smith says hello
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 42
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Quoting: Norm31
compared to Hoffman yes. But we need someone with a good shot and Toffoli doesn't provide that. Hopefully we get kovalchuk as he can be the answer for us


To be honest I don't care what the shot looks like, as long as while you're on the ice you score more goals than the other team smile and Toffoli over his career has done that.
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12 oct 2020 à 14 h 43
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The only way Vancouver's 2020 free agency makes sense is that Jim Benning is stranded in the woods of British Columbia without cell service. I simply cannot believe he couldn't make this work for the Canucks.
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