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Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 11 oct. 2020
Publié: 11 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I don't know how much Blues would realistically want for Dunn but I guess this package is okay.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
24 500 000 $
1700 000 $
22 250 000 $
21 500 000 $
1700 000 $
33 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Strome, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
2.
NYR
  1. Bozak, Tyler
  2. Dunn, Vince [Droits de RFA]
STL
  1. Garand, Dylan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Hájek, Libor
  3. Vierling, Evan [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
3.
NYR
    - Future Considerations.
    CHI
    1. Smith, Brendan
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (OTT)
    3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (NYR)
    Rachats de contrats
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    2021
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    Logo de NYR
    2022
    Logo de NYR
    Logo de NYR
    Logo de NYR
    Logo de NYR
    Logo de NYR
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    2023
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $75 258 133 $0 $8 362 500 $6 241 867 $

    Formation

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    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Blues de St-Louis
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    C, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
    AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    863 333 $863 333 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
    DG
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    700 000 $700 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    700 000 $700 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    700 000 $700 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1

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    12 oct. 2020 à 0 h 15
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    Probably not. I like Dunn. We need to get younger, and Pietrangelo just isn't that.


    I agree. I wouldn't trade him if I was STL. I just saw the cap issues and got my hopes up again lol.
    12 oct. 2020 à 0 h 16
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    I agree. I wouldn't trade him if I was STL. I just saw the cap issues and got my hopes up again lol.


    Yeah, no I doubt he gets dealt any time soon. I'd be very very interested in seeing a deal done later, but you would need to offer a first and one of your top prospects.
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    12 oct. 2020 à 0 h 18
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    Yeah, no I doubt he gets dealt any time soon. I'd be very very interested in seeing a deal done later, but you would need to offer a first and one of your top prospects.


    Yep. Fully understandable. We'll see what happens. (Please don't send him to New Jersey)
    12 oct. 2020 à 0 h 23
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    Yep. Fully understandable. We'll see what happens. (Please don't send him to New Jersey)


    They would send us a better draft pick so maybe....
    12 oct. 2020 à 0 h 28
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    Not in Blues idea. Bozak is still very serviceable as a 3C. He's not any type of dump or negative value. If you want Dunn in any deal it includes a first probably Top 5 protected, and Kravtsov.


    Look in a normal season I agree but bc of COVID everything’s different so unless us eat cap a lot of destinations wouldn’t work
    12 oct. 2020 à 0 h 31
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    Look in a normal season I agree but bc of COVID everything’s different so unless us eat cap a lot of destinations wouldn’t work


    it's not really all that different tho. Yes it's a flat cap. But at the same time. We can buy him out just as easily because Steen Steen is on LTIR.
    12 oct. 2020 à 0 h 38
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    Not in Blues idea. Bozak is still very serviceable as a 3C. He's not any type of dump or negative value. If you want Dunn in any deal it includes a first probably Top 5 protected, and Kravtsov.


    I'm only curious
    Is Nils Lundkvist + Lauri Pajuniemi any interest?
    12 oct. 2020 à 0 h 39
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    Quoting: mhroblak
    I'm only curious
    Is Nils Lundkvist + Lauri Pajuniemi any interest?


    depends on if Lundkvist is actually going to sign in the NHL.
    12 oct. 2020 à 0 h 42
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    depends on if Lundkvist is actually going to sign in the NHL.


    Is there a reason why he wouldn't do that in 2021?
    12 oct. 2020 à 1 h 0
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    Is there a reason why he wouldn't do that in 2021?


    Some players sometimes Re-sign in KHL.
    12 oct. 2020 à 1 h 6
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    They would send us a better draft pick so maybe....


    You stop right there...
    12 oct. 2020 à 1 h 7
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    Some players sometimes Re-sign in KHL.


    He's confirmed he's signing after Lulea's season is over. Lundkvist is off the table in terms of this trade tho.
    12 oct. 2020 à 1 h 8
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    Some players sometimes Re-sign in KHL.


    SHL?
    12 oct. 2020 à 1 h 27
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    SHL?


    I thought he was in KHL.
    12 oct. 2020 à 1 h 33
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    I thought he was in KHL.


    Lulea of SHL. Has 1 year remaining on extension. Confirmed he was signing ELC subsequent to the conclusion of the 2020-2021 SHL season.
    12 oct. 2020 à 20 h 54
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    Dunn is not a cap compliancy dump. Bozak would be, PLUS we are already under the cap right now. If we traded away Sanford, and Bozak we would be just fine. We have no need for this type of deal, AND Vince Dunn is already a Top 4 Defenseman with better stats than a lot of the top Defenseman.

    I hate it when facts completely annihilate an angument. wink



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    This is why Blues wouldn't do this deal. Specifically. Because a bunch of spare parts doesn't justify getting rid of this type of performance, and it's not just this season.

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    This is the past 4 years, so yet again. It would cost a First and Kravtsov to even remotely be close for him on the table. It's not worth it to us. It would not be worth it at all for us. Yes I understand Perunovich is coming up, but we should be looking into getting rid of Gunnarsson, and Scandella. That brings Perunovich up, but at the same time Perunovich is a year out. So making this deal on a win now team makes us down grade. It doesn't make sense for the Blues at all if we aren't getting substantial value back for him.
    12 oct. 2020 à 20 h 58
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    Scandella is probably out. Mikkola is good, but I'm not sure he's doing enough to make it onto the roster.


    While I don't disagree with you, Army has a history (and in my opinion), a bad habit of forcing guys he's signed to longer term contracts into a lineup even when that player obviously should not be. Army signed Scandy to a 4 year extension. I'd bet the house Army will keep him around for at least three years. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm just going off of history. This is another reason I see Faulk in the picture for a while.
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    12 oct. 2020 à 21 h 0
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    Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
    First off, appreciate the insightful response. Secondly, I don't envision Vitali Kravtsov being moved at all. I think if Lauri Pajuniemi is of interest for STL I would definitely be handcuffed to do a deal like that with taking Bozak's contract and adding a 1st-round pick. As a huge fan of Pajuniemi, I think it's a fair offer for sure. I've watched him since 2018 and think he has serious potential. 26 goals in Liiga isn't nothing to scoff at. I can't put into words how much I would love Vince Dunn in a NYR uniform, but in our rebuilding process, we simply can't trade top guys especially when these prospects we can part with are still very good, trading a 1st +, and taking $5M off the books to bring back Pietrangelo.

    So, would this trade work? If not, how would you adjust to your liking?
    St. Louis Blues
    - RW Lauri Pajuniemi
    - C Evan Vierling
    - 2021-1st round pick (Top 10 Protected)
    New York Rangers
    - LHD Vince Dunn (RFA Rights)
    - C Tyler Bozak


    That looks like the beginning of a negotiation. There would probably be tweaks, but it's at least in the neighborhood (unlike the Toronto fans wanting do send three pieces of used toilet paper to the Blues for Parayko).
    12 oct. 2020 à 21 h 2
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    I agree, but if we get Bozak off the books and Steen stays on LTIR or retires like I've been hearing, we would have the cap to make it work.
    I expected to hear he signed with Vegas tonight but nothing yet.


    Petro likely got his feelings hurt and that bridge may already be burned. I of course have no insight into what went on over the phones, but when Army signed Faulk and then doubled-down by signing Krug, that was a professional "F-U" to Petro's agent for sure and perhaps Petro himself.
    12 oct. 2020 à 21 h 7
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    That looks like the beginning of a negotiation. There would probably be tweaks, but it's at least in the neighborhood (unlike the Toronto fans wanting do send three pieces of used toilet paper to the Blues for Parayko).


    Yep I know there tactics. I'm for sure willing to add. Always depends what both teams value in terms of finishing this deal.
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    12 oct. 2020 à 21 h 9
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    They would send us a better draft pick so maybe....


    But Jersey doesn't have a guy like Kravstov unless they're willing to move Boqvist.
    12 oct. 2020 à 21 h 10
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    But Jersey doesn't have a guy like Kravstov unless they're willing to move Boqvist.


    Boqvist is nowhere near Kravtsov's level.
    12 oct. 2020 à 21 h 12
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    Quoting: rja40
    Petro likely got his feelings hurt and that bridge may already be burned. I of course have no insight into what went on over the phones, but when Army signed Faulk and then doubled-down by signing Krug, that was a professional "F-U" to Petro's agent for sure and perhaps Petro himself.


    I'd be a little hurt myself. This all could've been avoided if we just stayed away from Faulk.
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    12 oct. 2020 à 21 h 16
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    I'd be a little hurt myself. This all could've been avoided if we just stayed away from Faulk.


    I still don't understand the Faulk and Scandella moves...

    Krug-Pietrangelo
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    12 oct. 2020 à 21 h 23
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    Quoting: mhroblak
    I'm only curious
    Is Nils Lundkvist + Lauri Pajuniemi any interest?


    Yep
     
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