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Buffalo Sabres signed Zemgus Girgensons (3 Years / $2,200,000 AAV)

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8 oct. 2020 à 23 h 28
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That's about what he's worth. Girgensons, Larsson, and Okposo were a stud shut down line last year.


Yeah they only combined for 56 points all season long. All 2 guys were minus platers, too. This is a lot of money and term for a below average 4th liner.
8 oct. 2020 à 23 h 30
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Every time Buffalo signs a contract, makes a trade, or drafts a player I'm reminded of how terrible they are. Terrible deal. No upside.
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8 oct. 2020 à 23 h 54
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Key member of one of the most underrated fourth lines in the game. If there's one line to keep around, it's this one. I like this signing.


Yes buuuut... for 2.2 million? Really?
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9 oct. 2020 à 0 h 8
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He's worth about 1.3 Million. An overpayment, but not like it's breaking the bank.
9 oct. 2020 à 0 h 8
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Biased here but love what Z brings to the team. Overpaid and too long of term. Could be taken by Seattle or traded pretty easily though
9 oct. 2020 à 2 h 9
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Yes buuuut... for 2.2 million? Really?


I had him pegged at 1.8x4. Lose a year of term for a few extra dollars. Not horrible.
9 oct. 2020 à 2 h 16
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I had him pegged at 1.8x4. Lose a year of term for a few extra dollars. Not horrible.


His value is around 1.3 Million so it's about a 900k overpayment. It's not a horrible deal because it's easily traded, but you could've got better value elsewhere.
9 oct. 2020 à 2 h 19
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His value is around 1.3 Million so it's about a 900k overpayment. It's not a horrible deal because it's easily traded, but you could've got better value elsewhere.


Who has set his value at 1.3M? He had a really good year. He's worth than the 1.6 he was getting last year. Not offensively crazy but a really solid line overall
9 oct. 2020 à 2 h 22
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Who has set his value at 1.3M? He had a really good year. He's worth than the 1.6 he was getting last year. Not offensively crazy but a really solid line overall


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9 oct. 2020 à 2 h 24
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Meh. These charts still need to be blended with the eye test. There's only a select amount of data shown, and it doesn't account for the role he plays. He'd have go tten over 1.4M anywhere. This isn't an overpayment.
9 oct. 2020 à 2 h 26
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Meh. These charts still need to be blended with the eye test. There's only a select amount of data shown, and it doesn't account for the role he plays. He'd have go tten over 1.4M anywhere. This isn't an overpayment.


This chart shows what the market value for be to get a player that gives you the same result. Zemgus could've got more elsewehre but that doesn't mean it's a good deal.
9 oct. 2020 à 2 h 49
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So this guy is worth more than twice as much as Kahun's qualifying offer?

Legit.


Was Kahin eligible for arbitration? I presume they feared arbitration not the qo itself
9 oct. 2020 à 4 h 14
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9 oct. 2020 à 5 h 3
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Why they are still keeping this guy? Try someone from your system in the 4th line because with Zemgus in the line up Buffalo is not getting anything for a long time. I know that is not only his fault but he is not working out for this team so why not try something new?

And that contract is bad by the way.
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9 oct. 2020 à 6 h 51
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Surprising but because of his skill they must be willing to overlook his attitude issues


Haven't heard anything about attitude issues, do you have any sources for that?
9 oct. 2020 à 8 h 8
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Zemgus Girgensons is the new Chris Kelsay. Bills fans will get this.
9 oct. 2020 à 8 h 9
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Yeah they only combined for 56 points all season long. All 2 guys were minus platers, too. This is a lot of money and term for a below average 4th liner.


Points aren't everything, and plus minus is an outdated stat.

They were a very good line who played against other teams top lines and had overwhelming defensive zone starts.
9 oct. 2020 à 8 h 12
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Haven't heard anything about attitude issues, do you have any sources for that?


its completely made up. there has never been a whisper about girgensons.
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9 oct. 2020 à 8 h 13
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Was Kahin eligible for arbitration? I presume they feared arbitration not the qo itself


What would a 30 point winger with 2 NHL seasons get in arbitration?

Probably less than $2,200,000. Not sure though.
9 oct. 2020 à 8 h 13
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Girgensons is fine as a player and the contract isn't outrageous.

You would just think the team would be moving on from these pre tank guys who have done nothing but lose.
9 oct. 2020 à 8 h 14
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What would a 30 point winger with 2 NHL seasons get in arbitration?

Probably less than $2,200,000. Not sure though.


evan rodrigues won 2 million in arbitration after putting up 2, 6, 25 and 29 points.
9 oct. 2020 à 8 h 21
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What would a 30 point winger with 2 NHL seasons get in arbitration?

Probably less than $2,200,000. Not sure though.


I don't know. I suspect his argument would be for PPG. He's a half a PPG player. So like 15/45. Maybe 3 mil? But yeah I'd rather him, I suspect they don't want him in their top 6.

Girgensons is a fine player but certainly not exceptional, but they better be damn confident he is on their 3rd line, paying this for a fourth liner with term is the epitome of stupidity
9 oct. 2020 à 10 h 31
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He's like a $1.2m player
9 oct. 2020 à 10 h 38
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Huge overpay. Honestly I thought Sabres would've let him go. If I was them I'd have taken Kahun over Girgensons anyday.
9 oct. 2020 à 10 h 46
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Overpaid for a 4th line player in the NHL
 
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