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UFA and Trades

Créé par: CanucksTilliDIE
Équipe: 2020-21 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 8 oct. 2020
Publié: 8 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
32 500 000 $
24 500 000 $
23 000 000 $
11 500 000 $
45 200 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Ekman-Larsson, Oliver (2 250 000 $ retained)
ARI
  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. Juolevi, Olli
  3. Virtanen, Jake [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
2.
VAN
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (CHI)
Rachats de contrats
Frais appliqués
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2022
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de CHI
2023
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $78 378 544 $1 700 000 $4 850 000 $3 121 456 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 375 000 $4 375 000 $
AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
5 010 000 $5 010 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 666 $891 666 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AD
UFA - 1

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8 oct. 2020 à 11 h 57
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Arizona won't retain if OEL is moved and why do people think that Juolevi has any significant value? I understand that money needs to go back in a deal but Arizona has way more pieces that they can move out to pay the bills.
8 oct. 2020 à 11 h 58
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Arizona won't retain if OEL is moved and why do people think that Juolevi has any significant value? I understand that money needs to go back in a deal but Arizona has way more pieces that they can move out to pay the bills.


like who ? lmao
8 oct. 2020 à 12 h 5
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like who ? lmao


Kuempfer for one. Kessel for another. Stepan, Hjalmarsson, Goligoski and Demers are others. Lots of salary for them to move out if they want to, they don't HAVE to move out OEL.

And this trade does not help them save money at all. They are retaining for the next 8 years (which nobody is going to do) and taking one a lot of your dead money. That's not what they are looking for. I get you're a Canucks fan, but let's be objective here.

I also think you've made it extremely difficult to re-sign Hughes and Petterson next year, which should be top priority for Vancouver rather than overpaying more UFA's this year.
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8 oct. 2020 à 12 h 5
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Quoting: CanucksTilliDIE
like who ? lmao


Demers (3.9), Goligoski (5.475), Stepan (6.5), Hjalmersson (5), Rannta (4.25), Kuemper (4.5), Kessell for peanuts. All those guys are over 30 and walking in 1 to two years, why trade the only guy who has signed long term in the desert? Of all GM's Benning is not going to bend a team over a barrel for their captain.

Every offer that a Bruins fan has put together on here has been better than the heap of dog shirt that Vancouver fans are suggesting.
8 oct. 2020 à 12 h 8
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Kuempfer for one. Kessel for another. Stepan, Hjalmarsson, Goligoski and Demers are others. Lots of salary for them to move out if they want to, they don't HAVE to move out OEL.

And this trade does not help them save money at all. They are retaining for the next 8 years (which nobody is going to do) and taking one a lot of your dead money. That's not what they are looking for. I get you're a Canucks fan, but let's be objective here.

I also think you've made it extremely difficult to re-sign Hughes and Petterson next year, which should be top priority for Vancouver rather than overpaying more UFA's this year.


Buddy Louie Eriksson is not "dead money" 6M cap hit next two year but is really only owed 4 million combined in real dollars. GMs look at that stuff man.
8 oct. 2020 à 12 h 9
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This was a decent arm chair GM thing. The only criticisms I have is that I think Tanev might not sign with the canucks due to how (based off of rumors) his agent and him were left to dry with little to no communication with the canucks. Cam Talbot is a great pick up to back Demko or even start an even number of games, and Virtanen was most likely handed a qualifying offer solely to be traded. On virtanen, most of his goals came through better players on the team and it was predicted that he would fall off by the seasons end, which he did.
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8 oct. 2020 à 12 h 12
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Buddy Louie Eriksson is not "dead money" 6M cap hit next two year but is really only owed 4 million combined in real dollars. GMs look at that stuff man.


Okay "buddy". 4 million is still 4 million they likely do not want to spend. Just because you need to balance your cap doesn't mean Arizona has to help you with that. I am well aware they look at those types of things (which is why players like James Reimer may be popular this offseason). Vancouver is not going to take your cap dump, the player who you don't want that every Vancouver ACGM seems to trade (Virtanen), an AHL player and a SECOND round pick? Arizona wants picks. Add a first and a third, take out your trash and they'd definitely agree, without retention.
8 oct. 2020 à 12 h 51
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Quoting: newballcoach
Okay "buddy". 4 million is still 4 million they likely do not want to spend. Just because you need to balance your cap doesn't mean Arizona has to help you with that. I am well aware they look at those types of things (which is why players like James Reimer may be popular this offseason). Vancouver is not going to take your cap dump, the player who you don't want that every Vancouver ACGM seems to trade (Virtanen), an AHL player and a SECOND round pick? Arizona wants picks. Add a first and a third, take out your trash and they'd definitely agree, without retention.


Arizona wants/needs to move 56 million dollars off the books. OEL is of little use to that team now. Coach see eye to eye with the coach, they are shedding salary and rebuilding. Getting a good young dman, fwd and pick isn't a bad offer.
8 oct. 2020 à 13 h 5
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Arizona wants/needs to move 56 million dollars off the books. OEL is of little use to that team now. Coach see eye to eye with the coach, they are shedding salary and rebuilding. Getting a good young dman, fwd and pick isn't a bad offer.


But doesn't save them any money! With Eriksson, Virtanen's arb award or QO and the 2 million retention Arizona is paying MORE to move OEL for that "package of things." Why would they be motivated to do that at all? If they want to cut 56 million I probably wouldn't start with trading my best player for a package that costs more.
8 oct. 2020 à 13 h 19
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But doesn't save them any money! With Eriksson, Virtanen's arb award or QO and the 2 million retention Arizona is paying MORE to move OEL for that "package of things." Why would they be motivated to do that at all? If they want to cut 56 million I probably wouldn't start with trading my best player for a package that costs more.


Eriksson is owed 1 million in real dollars this yr. Virtanen is set to make 3 or so and Juolevi is an ELC.

The real savings though is getting 8 mil 7 off your books because you don't see your window being while OEL is still full value for that contract.
 
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