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Penguins help TOR

Créé par: pharrow
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 8 oct. 2020
Publié: 8 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
TOR clears cap space. Penguins get a 3C rather than going to FA.
They could just as easily go for Wennburg or Haula.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2750 000 $
Transactions
PIT
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander (500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
TOR
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
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2022
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 779 342 $0 $982 500 $1 720 658 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 940 000 $2 940 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
894 167 $894 167 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
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853 333 $853 333 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DD
UFA - 3
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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8 oct. 2020 à 11 h 45
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0% chance that trade ever happens.
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8 oct. 2020 à 11 h 47
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huh
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8 oct. 2020 à 11 h 47
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0% chance that trade ever happens.


0 chance a team pays TOR to take Johnsson too.

If TOR or TB or any number of teams could have moved cap, it would have happened by now.
8 oct. 2020 à 11 h 48
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You want to be given a first round pick to take on a player you intend to play in your top 9? And you want them to retain salary as well.

It cost a 2nd to dump Marc Staal who made 2 million more and is not any good. This is so far off base.

Although it does seem to be a Pittsburgh thing to want overpaid players, so I guess anything is possible.
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8 oct. 2020 à 11 h 49
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Um what exactly are the leafs getting in return here? Kerfoot can return at least a 3rd from another team
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8 oct. 2020 à 11 h 49
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Why would TOR pay to get rid of Kerfoot? They could easily trade him away for a good return.
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8 oct. 2020 à 11 h 50
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0 chance a team pays TOR to take Johnsson too.

If TOR or TB or any number of teams could have moved cap, it would have happened by now.


I disagree. I actually think it had more to do with teams not wanting to trade 2020 draft picks and being unsure about what was going to happen with RFA's and QO's. I think now that both of those things have settled down, there might be some moves today.

I mean, if you're a team like LA, Detroit, Ottawa and aren't going to compete this season, you'd be foolish not to acquire players, whether they are attached with draft picks or not. Fill your cap space, and maybe retain on a player and flip them later. But to just sit there with unused cap space when other teams desperately need the relief would be a missed opportunity.
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8 oct. 2020 à 11 h 57
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That Kadri trade is looking so good right now. Well, good for those of us who despise the Leafs.
8 oct. 2020 à 12 h 21
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I disagree. I actually think it had more to do with teams not wanting to trade 2020 draft picks and being unsure about what was going to happen with RFA's and QO's. I think now that both of those things have settled down, there might be some moves today.

I mean, if you're a team like LA, Detroit, Ottawa and aren't going to compete this season, you'd be foolish not to acquire players, whether they are attached with draft picks or not. Fill your cap space, and maybe retain on a player and flip them later. But to just sit there with unused cap space when other teams desperately need the relief would be a missed opportunity.


Even Dubas himself has said it.
""Always," he says with a chuckle. "I'm not sure we would be able do that without making a poor trade ... we don't really have any contracts we look at & say, 'We need to get rid of this player ...'""

he can't move players. You aren't getting a 2nd for Johnsson. You are giving up for anyone to take anything.
You want to open up cap to get a defense man as FA starts.
Here you go.
8 oct. 2020 à 12 h 27
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0 chance a team pays TOR to take Johnsson too.

If TOR or TB or any number of teams could have moved cap, it would have happened by now.


Kerfoot and AJ aren't negative assets. They're both decent players on reasonable contracts.
8 oct. 2020 à 12 h 40
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Even Dubas himself has said it.
""Always," he says with a chuckle. "I'm not sure we would be able do that without making a poor trade ... we don't really have any contracts we look at & say, 'We need to get rid of this player ...'""

he can't move players. You aren't getting a 2nd for Johnsson. You are giving up for anyone to take anything.
You want to open up cap to get a defense man as FA starts.
Here you go.


I think you are heavily misinterpreting his quote. A "bad trade" for Dubas doesn't mean he is paying another team to dump a player (like Marleau last year). To him, it often means getting below market value for someone. That does not at all mean he is unable to move players. It probably means he is unwilling to move players for the return he is currently being offered, big difference. And no one is going to attach a first round pick to get rid of a useful NHL player on a reasonable deal, so let's get grounded back in reality. He likes Johnsson and Kerfoot as players, or they wouldn't be Leafs in the first place.

Nobody on here knows what anything is worth. If you had posted an ACGM with Matt Murray getting moved for a 2nd, people would have ****ed. Or Lias Anderson. Or how about when the Penguins were polite enough to give the Leafs a first (and a prospect) for Kapanen? Every single person on here would have thought those trades were garbage, so don't go pretending you have some sort of insight or knowledge others don't.
 
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