I completely agree.
Utter nonsense.
Wouldn't even want it to be our own 2nd

The guys on 690 are usually pretty good but sometimes they are out in left field. For instance, how they can still debate that Subban trade is beyond me. Get over it ffs. It's been proven Bergy was right on that one.
Also sometimes their answers to their "questions of the day" are so wrong lol

Well it's an open market. You think he is worth a 2nd & 3rd, but what about the other teams?

Would one be willing to give out their first for a young power foward who proved he can score 25 goals in the NHL on a reasonable bridge contract?

Definitely.

So you can raise or fold.

The guy cracked 20 goals once in four seasons. No way.

I hate people changing the facts to fit their narrative.

You talk like if 19 goals was nothing. Has an average of 20 goals a year over 3 seasons.

Do you know how many RW scored 19+ goals while beeing paid under $4M last season? 6

Many teams would take that over a late first, which BTW only have a 40% chance to become an NHL regular.

Easy fold...

Anderson isn't a sure bet, only 1 season above 25 goals, injury plagued last year, had a sour contract negotiation on his bridge deal so I doubt he'll be "reasonable" on his next one, and is already 26 years old...kinda hard to sell the potential at that age.

If a team wants to "up the bid" for him, I just hope it's not the Habs. by all means if Habs want to pull an "Andrew Shaw" and make it two 2nd's, I can live with that. Anything more I hope they walk away.

27 goals in 1 year isn't worth a guy that is a proven 50 point player that plays tough as well.
Anderson hasn't proven anything and he'd be coming into a different system. Domi has proven he can produce here and he likes it despite what social media implies.

This Domi situation can fixed easily. He's still under team control for another two years. Stick him on the wing in the top6 and he'll produce otherwise he wont get paid in 2 years.

Let someone else take Anderson if they want to overpay

You see a risk you are not willing to take and it's ok. But another team won't have the same evaluation and leave you on the sideline.

On a side note, a 15 overall has approximately the same value than 2x2nd. So, this is a non-debate...

You also have to look at the open market. With teams looking for players to fit into their internal caps it is quite possible that a team may take a flyer on a guy that will be cheap next year. The going rate on free agents is going to cost money and some teams may be willing to move a high pick in exchange for immediate help that will be cheap for the upcoming season.

in a vacuum, sure. I'll give you that. but context matters. Habs have an overabundance of prospects / picks in their system, so quality over quantity is being weighted more heavily. I think we can agree on that.

So for the Habs 16th should be viewed as more valuable than two mid to late 2nds.

and I don't see how passing on Anderson would leave the Habs on the sideline, unless I misunderstood the sentence. plenty of other guys on the market from the look of things

This is a good point, but than that brings up a whole new issue when considering Anderson....will he be that cheap?? I think we need to get something out of the way here, and that's what his next contract will be, as this will be a huge factor on his value.

Again Anderson is 26, so he only has 1 year left of team control. If the only way any team can "get him for cheap" is giving him a 1 year deal straight to UFA... he becomes a rental at that point, no?

and if someone signs him on a longer term, what will be his AAV asking price? something to consider.

You are correct. Speaking of context, I wonder if CLB would not be more interested in 2x2nd because they wave no picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Another part of context is comparables. If Kapanen's price is a first, it make sense Anderson's value to be similar.



I don’t know who you are refering to. Not many cheap young powerfowards RFA playing RW are really available (Maybe Poolparty, Virtanen).. You snooze, you loose!

If we start using the Kapanen trade as a frame of reference, Domi is worth the ridiculous amount we've seen on ACGM lol at some point we just have to say that this is the outlier deal and not the new norm. If I'm wrong, oh boy will this be an interesting offseason lol

But yeah if CBJ are more interested in two 2nd's, maybe there's a fit with MTL.




Well look at my reply to Jacketsman61, Anderson being cheap is highly debatable.
Odds are there's probably a lot more players that would fit MTL's needs that are available that we just don't know about. For me, if the Habs could get a team to acquire DeBrusk from BOS and flip him to MTL, ala Hoffman to SJ to FLA, I'd be over the moon.

Well think of it this way, if Anderson would have been healthy this past season and had a repeat of the previous season, he would easily command 6 mil+. As it stands he wants a long term deal now. If he signs a long term deal it is conceivable that 4 or 5 mil gets it done. Let’s look at the open market, Hoffman got paid 5 mil+ and Taylor Hall was at 6 mil. They will get raises this offseason. Which means they could get paid about 10 mil or so for Hall and about 8 mil or so for Hoffman. Anderson would cost half the price and bring size and speed which is something Montreal needs.

Habs need size on the wings so they can play the cycle game, they have more than enough speed lol MTL's system right now due to roster construction is all speed and transition... need a to balance things out. Anderson fits that need sure, but signing a guy long term after an abysmal 1 goal 26 game period and MAJOR shoulder surgery just isn't smart business, let alone giving him a $5mil+ AAV. and the alternative of giving him a cheap 1 year deal defeats the whole purpose of trading for him....

The more I think about it, as much as Anderson would help now (if healthy), I'd steer clear and look for other options. The combination of having to pay a premium (like 16th overall in a bidding war) just to acquire him, then having to give him a sizeable contract, just doesn't make it worth it. I hope the Habs pass.

Also Kapanen has 2 years signed at 3.2 million then he is still an RFA. Anderson is 1 year from UFA. That Kapanen trade was a "You have something I need and I'm gonna pay double to get it".

Don’t hold your breath on Debrusk, Boston have plenty of space and money to resign him.

Double what? Market value is market value.

Kase, Goodrow, Coleman, skjei all cost a 1st round pick.

Maybe it's just worth half of what you think.

Lol from your own words "I hate people changing the facts to fit their narrative" and then you mention "Has an average of 20 goals a year over 3 seasons" yet you completely dismiss his performance from last season to include that in your stats. Tell me, what's his average over the last four seasons?!?!
Hypocrite.

That's an interesting scenario. I like that 1. It just sucks that it wont happen

Nothing GMJR does should be a comparable. Absolutely correct.

It wasn’t nonsense.

Terrible asset management at its finest.

I like Anderson but wtf

My head hurts.... really don’t understand this

Well, there we go...interesting.
I think Domi for Anderson 1for1 is fair. The 3rd rounder is too much IMO but whatever. WE'll see I guess.
I think it's hilarious that Domi will play for Torts lol