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Créé par: ItsClarke17
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 5 oct. 2020
Publié: 5 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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PIT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]
  2. Rust, Bryan
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
How close is this? David Pagnotta is reporting that the Sabres are willing to move the pick. Not exactly the most realistic but sort of just thinking out loud.
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PIT
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
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5 oct. 2020 à 22 h 22
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Lol.

Botts its here anymore. Keep murray and company
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5 oct. 2020 à 22 h 25
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If I had to guess it would be for Cirelli or Willam Nylander.
5 oct. 2020 à 22 h 27
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I dont put any value on goalies, especially right now with a buyers market coming. I guess adams would have to think rust is pretty awesome to move 8oa for just him.
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5 oct. 2020 à 22 h 29
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Rust might get a 1st, but not a top 10 pick
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5 oct. 2020 à 22 h 32
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If I had to guess it would be for Cirelli or Willam Nylander.


I think we make the pick. The stuff ive seen tonight kinda says- yeah we might move the pick, but its gotta be something pretty sweet coming back, like the proverbial overpay. And nobody wants 8oa that bad. Its not cirelli/nylander that you get, its crap offers for a mid first plus a second or a few players that dont have ceilings like the guys that should be available at 8 this year.
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5 oct. 2020 à 22 h 41
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Doesn't make sense for either side, but especially for Buffalo
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5 oct. 2020 à 22 h 59
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Rossi aint making it to 8th either. Thats some deep dreaming.
6 oct. 2020 à 0 h 9
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Pretty sure Buffalo says no to that. Neither player is even worth a 1st much less 8th overall
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6 oct. 2020 à 11 h 50
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Quoting: sabres89
I think we make the pick. The stuff ive seen tonight kinda says- yeah we might move the pick, but its gotta be something pretty sweet coming back, like the proverbial overpay. And nobody wants 8oa that bad. Its not cirelli/nylander that you get, its crap offers for a mid first plus a second or a few players that dont have ceilings like the guys that should be available at 8 this year.


Gms are mostly cowards. They will do everything in their power to not look bad. You only need to look at the risks Jarmo took in Columbus going against the grain and going all in at the deadline when everyone thought he should sell. He barely any received accolades, no rewards and is just alive til his next mistake. So Gms rather stand pat than make a mistake even though mistakes aren't always fatal but that 1% chance a mistake sends them out of the boys club scares them to death!
Look whom was nominated besides Brisebois for Gm of the year award, 2 of the other 4 finalists of Cup finals. Its the same every year. 3 of the 4 finalists get nominated for GM of the year. Its ironic that the award that grades them couldn't be a better representation of their job. Be safe, don't ever think outside the box.

Better yet the perfect number 1 example in Winnipeg. Kevin Chevy, the GM for life. He does nothing!
He's never talked about with job security.
The big rumour was that Stone would have been traded to Winnipeg last year with an extension in place but Chevy, the bold man, didn't want to give up Jack Roslovic. Jack you see could have been a star and that would make Chevy look bad! Mark Stone, the local Winnipeg product was denied because it was 'risky' instead Chevy went safe and gave up draft pick for Hayes. Oops but no one even remembers that pick so Kevin's job is safe.

I half think Dubas just plays video games and watches wrestling while trolling Gms all day. "Oh, hey, there, Don, say, you need a goalie, huh?! I'll give you Andersen for Hamilton. Phone disconnects"
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6 oct. 2020 à 12 h 15
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Gms are mostly cowards. They will do everything in their power to not look bad. You only need to look at the risks Jarmo took in Columbus going against the grain and going all in at the deadline when everyone thought he should sell. He barely any received accolades, no rewards and is just alive til his next mistake. So Gms rather stand pat than make a mistake even though mistakes aren't always fatal but that 1% chance a mistake sends them out of the boys club scares them to death!
Look whom was nominated besides Brisebois for Gm of the year award, 2 of the other 4 finalists of Cup finals. Its the same every year. 3 of the 4 finalists get nominated for GM of the year. Its ironic that the award that grades them couldn't be a better representation of their job. Be safe, don't ever think outside the box.

Better yet the perfect number 1 example in Winnipeg. Kevin Chevy, the GM for life. He does nothing!
He's never talked about with job security.
The big rumour was that Stone would have been traded to Winnipeg last year with an extension in place but Chevy, the bold man, didn't want to give up Jack Roslovic. Jack you see could have been a star and that would make Chevy look bad! Mark Stone, the local Winnipeg product was denied because it was 'risky' instead Chevy went safe and gave up draft pick for Hayes. Oops but no one even remembers that pick so Kevin's job is safe.

I half think Dubas just plays video games and watches wrestling while trolling Gms all day. "Oh, hey, there, Don, say, you need a goalie, huh?! I'll give you Andersen for Hamilton. Phone disconnects"


I read this and all i could think was darcy regier. He was the poster boy for the low risk move. The low risk move gets you 17 years.
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6 oct. 2020 à 13 h 9
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I read this and all i could think was darcy regier. He was the poster boy for the low risk move. The low risk move gets you 17 years.


Tim Murray was shoot from the hip.
Both his mouth and trades.
Look what that gave us with O'Reilly, Lehner and Kane on the team:
Second last in the Atlantic.
Last in the Atlantic.
Last over all.

Regier did not have any scouts yet his Hasek led team made it to the cup finals and his Miller led team won the Presidents cup.
BTW his 2006 team wins the cup if we did not have to play 4 AHL defensemen in the finals.

Steve Yzerman traded away a first only twice with big trades:
Ryan McDonagh and J.T. Miller February 26, 2018 for Vladislav Namestnikov, Libor Hajek, Brett Howden, 2018 1st round pick and 2019 conditional 2nd round pick
and Braydon Coburn March 2, 2015 for Radko Gudas, 2015 1st round pick, and 2015 3rd round pick
He got firsts for Kyle Quincey and Martin St. Louis, in both cases he won the trades overwhelmingly.
He was certainly slow and steady.

So I completely agree with your description of Regier, it is the better path to follow.
Give me slow and steady to win the race.
The hare gets tired and finishes last.
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6 oct. 2020 à 13 h 43
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Tim Murray was shoot from the hip.
Both his mouth and trades.
Look what that gave us with O'Reilly, Lehner and Kane on the team:
Second last in the Atlantic.
Last in the Atlantic.
Last over all.

Regier did not have any scouts yet his Hasek led team made it to the cup finals and his Miller led team won the Presidents cup.
BTW his 2006 team wins the cup if we did not have to play 4 AHL defensemen in the finals.

Steve Yzerman traded away a first only twice with big trades:
Ryan McDonagh and J.T. Miller February 26, 2018 for Vladislav Namestnikov, Libor Hajek, Brett Howden, 2018 1st round pick and 2019 conditional 2nd round pick
and Braydon Coburn March 2, 2015 for Radko Gudas, 2015 1st round pick, and 2015 3rd round pick
He got firsts for Kyle Quincey and Martin St. Louis, in both cases he won the trades overwhelmingly.
He was certainly slow and steady.

So I completely agree with your description of Regier, it is the better path to follow.
Give me slow and steady to win the race.
The hare gets tired and finishes last.


Gotta be a happy medium. Hasek (who muckler traded for) led a team whose best line was a checking line to the finals where they lost to a pretty stacked stars team. Not going to get pieces led to hasek demanding out. The 2006 team was comprised of smaller/not physical players that suddenly found themselves playing in a league where they could skate (well for 2 years at least). I believe in studs. If you dont have em, gotta go get em. Cant get them as ufas or picking at pick 15-18, gotta figure another way. The second class skaters, playing as a team for a coach- thats only ever gotten us so far. Btw i respect your opinion, neither has gotten us a cup, im fine with the home run cut, you gotta hit it though.
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