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If Rumours Are True w CGY

Créé par: carterhart
Date de création initiale: 5 oct. 2020
Publié: 5 oct. 2020
Équipe: 2020-21 Flyers de Philadelphie
Explications
It was mentioned on the Missin Curfew podcast by Jimmy Hayes that Johnny Gaudreau will go home to Philadelphia with another piece at the expense of Jakub Voracek, Shayne Gostisbehere, and most likely a prospect as a sweetener for taking on that cap hit. Adding the addition from CGY's perspective and the prospect as a sweetener, let's look at what PHI can look like heading into next season.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Myers, Philippe43 750 000 $
Patrick, Nolan11 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Ryan, Bobby21 500 000 $
van Riemsdyk, Trevor22 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Gaudreau, Johnny
  2. Bennett, Sam
CGY
  1. Voracek, Jakub
  2. Gostisbehere, Shayne
Détails additionnels:
Bobby Brink
2.
PHI
  1. 2021 3e round pick (NJD)
  2. 2021 5e round pick (BUF)
NJD
  1. van Riemsdyk, James
Détails additionnels:
Don't take this trade too seriously, it's just a dump to see what the team could look like.
Rachats de contrats
  • Andrew MacDonald: 1 916 667 $
  • David Schlemko: 600 000 $
  • Ilya Bryzgalov: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Claude Giroux: 4 137 500 $ (50%)
  • Michael Raffl: 400 000 $ (25%)
  • Erik Gustafsson: 1 500 000 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
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Logo de PHI
Logo de MTL
2021
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Logo de PHI
Logo de NJD
Logo de PHI
Logo de BUF
Logo de PHI
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $75 864 727 $66 037 $582 500 $5 635 273 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Giroux, Claude
4 137 500 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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Couturier, Sean
4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de PHI
Konecny, Travis
5 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de CGY
Gaudreau, Johnny
6 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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Hayes, Kevin
7 142 857 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de PHI
Farabee, Joel
925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de PHI
Lindblom, Oskar
3 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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Patrick, Nolan
1 000 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
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Bennett, Sam
2 550 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Raffl, Michael
1 200 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de PHI
Laughton, Scott
2 300 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Ryan, Bobby
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de PHI
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
1 075 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Provorov, Ivan
6 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de PHI
Niskanen, Matt
5 750 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de PHI
Hart, Carter
730 833 $
G
RFA - 1
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Sanheim, Travis
3 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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Myers, Philippe
3 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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Elliott, Brian
1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Hägg, Robert
1 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
van Riemsdyk, Trevor
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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5 oct. 2020 à 11 h 10
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Modifié 5 oct. 2020 à 11 h 18
add frost instead of brink and its closer but no
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5 oct. 2020 à 11 h 14
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yeah no, thats such a horrid deal for Calgary.
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5 oct. 2020 à 11 h 19
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Flames have zero interest in Voracek and less than zero interest in Ghost. Try Frost+Myers+1st and dump cap elsewhere
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5 oct. 2020 à 11 h 30
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Hard and easy no from Flames.

Starts with Frost and your 1st rounder for Johnny hockey alone IMO.
5 oct. 2020 à 11 h 33
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Quoting: Trickster
Hard and easy no from Flames.

Starts with Frost and your 1st rounder for Johnny hockey alone IMO.[/quotquote=Alfie11;1839288]Flames have zero interest in Voracek and less than zero interest in Ghost. Try Frost+Myers+1st and dump cap elsewhere


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yeah no, thats such a horrid deal for Calgary.


This isn't a trade I am proposing, this is what was discussed on a podcast. It's in the description.
5 oct. 2020 à 11 h 36
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This isn't a trade I am proposing, this is what was discussed on a podcast. It's in the description.


yeah and its a bias podcast from people who dont know squat. The value is really clearly lopsided
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5 oct. 2020 à 11 h 37
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Quoting: carterhart
This isn't a trade I am proposing, this is what was discussed on a podcast. It's in the description.


Understood - but it is the most ridiculous trade rumor for JG out of many. And no where did the Podcast include Bennet which just makes the trade worse for CGY. They did say it would have to be a significant sweetener form PHI to offset the massive cash differential. Bobby Brink ain't that.
5 oct. 2020 à 12 h 2
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Quoting: carterhart
This isn't a trade I am proposing, this is what was discussed on a podcast. It's in the description.


Doesn't make it a good suggestion. Jimmy Hayes is just a dip ****
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5 oct. 2020 à 13 h 55
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Quoting: InTreWeTrust
Understood - but it is the most ridiculous trade rumor for JG out of many. And no where did the Podcast include Bennet which just makes the trade worse for CGY. They did say it would have to be a significant sweetener form PHI to offset the massive cash differential. Bobby Brink ain't that.


Quoting: MethodMan
Doesn't make it a good suggestion. Jimmy Hayes is just a dip ****


Again, if you read the description I just put two random pieces since they said it was undecided yet. Sure Hayes is gonna be biased because his brother plays for PHI, but not once did I say this deal is fair and/or going to be a legitimate transaction.

Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
yeah and its a bias podcast from people who dont know squat. The value is really clearly lopsided


I'd say three former NHL players with ties to organizations and key sources of information don't fall under "don't know squat". Again, I never said this was gonna happen, I'm simply just putting into perspective to see what they discussed.

Like seriously guys, no need to smash your keyboard over lmao
5 oct. 2020 à 14 h 2
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Again, if you read the description I just put two random pieces since they said it was undecided yet. Sure Hayes is gonna be biased because his brother plays for PHI, but not once did I say this deal is fair and/or going to be a legitimate transaction.



I'd say three former NHL players with ties to organizations and key sources of information don't fall under "don't know squat". Again, I never said this was gonna happen, I'm simply just putting into perspective to see what they discussed.

Like seriously guys, no need to smash your keyboard over lmao


Pointing out how stupid it is is hardly smashing our keyboards. But I do have to ask, iyou are sppreading this "rumor", why do you think you deserve to be exempt from the criticism?
5 oct. 2020 à 15 h 3
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Quoting: MethodMan
Pointing out how stupid it is is hardly smashing our keyboards. But I do have to ask, iyou are sppreading this "rumor", why do you think you deserve to be exempt from the criticism?


I wouldn't say I'm spreading a rumour, but rather posting it on a site where these discussions are had to critique said rumours. Sure, I respect that you think the deal is bad, but coming at me as if I made the rumour is a little ridiculous.
5 oct. 2020 à 15 h 6
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Quoting: carterhart
I wouldn't say I'm spreading a rumour, but rather posting it on a site where these discussions are had to critique said rumours. Sure, I respect that you think the deal is bad, but coming at me as if I made the rumour is a little ridiculous.


By posting you are literally putting it on another medium for people to read. Theat is the definition of spreading a rumor

And you haven't been "come at" you are acting like a victim when we say the suggestion is garbage
5 oct. 2020 à 15 h 14
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Quoting: MethodMan
By posting you are literally putting it on another medium for people to read. Theat is the definition of spreading a rumor

And you haven't been "come at" you are acting like a victim when we say the suggestion is garbage


Okay to give you the benefit, let's say I am "spreading a rumour." I can live with that. But trashing me for "spreading" such rumour instead of the one's who made it is the part that is ridiculous to me. I'm not tryna victimize myself here like I don't really care lol. Just bash Jimmy Hayes if you hate the rumour that much instead of having to get in a keyboard battle with someone who is re-iterating what someone said.

Just for context, if I'm as bad as Jimmy because I'm "spreading his rumour," then I guess every news outlet around the world is the same when a story breaks or rumour is made.
5 oct. 2020 à 16 h 49
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Okay to give you the benefit, let's say I am "spreading a rumour." I can live with that. But trashing me for "spreading" such rumour instead of the one's who made it is the part that is ridiculous to me. I'm not tryna victimize myself here like I don't really care lol. Just bash Jimmy Hayes if you hate the rumour that much instead of having to get in a keyboard battle with someone who is re-iterating what someone said.

Just for context, if I'm as bad as Jimmy because I'm "spreading his rumour," then I guess every news outlet around the world is the same when a story breaks or rumour is made.


You were never trashed, by anyone. I also never said you were just as bad as Jimmy., all I did is ask why you should be exempt from criticism. Christ dude, you need to stop taking everything so personally. Nothing has been trashed except the rumor and Jimmy. The most criticism you've even received was me saying you should expect some since you spread the rumor. Maybe it's time for you to fit next to an open freezer before you melt.
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6 oct. 2020 à 8 h 59
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Quoting: MethodMan
You were never trashed, by anyone. I also never said you were just as bad as Jimmy., all I did is ask why you should be exempt from criticism. Christ dude, you need to stop taking everything so personally. Nothing has been trashed except the rumor and Jimmy. The most criticism you've even received was me saying you should expect some since you spread the rumor. Maybe it's time for you to fit next to an open freezer before you melt.


Again, so everyone who posts news should take the same criticism as a source? That's literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard lol. I never advocated for the rumour once so whatever man, you do you.
6 oct. 2020 à 9 h 27
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Quoting: carterhart
Again, so everyone who posts news should take the same criticism as a source? That's literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard lol. I never advocated for the rumour once so whatever man, you do you.


News and rumors aren't the same thing. But, anyone spreading false information should absolutely face criticism. As for it being the dumbest thing you've ever read, take a moment and read your incessant whining in this thread.
6 oct. 2020 à 10 h 32
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Quoting: MethodMan
News and rumors aren't the same thing. But, anyone spreading false information should absolutely face criticism. As for it being the dumbest thing you've ever read, take a moment and read your incessant whining in this thread.


How would you know it's false information? These talks could've taken place for all you know. So saying I'm spreading false information without knowing that as a certainty is no surprise to me anymore after seeing you argue me in this thread. I don't see how I'm whining here, I'm clearly just arguing a point and you result to "whining" and "crying". Grow up buddy, maybe be a little more professional when you engage in these kind of discussions rather than get emotional and call guys names (like Jimmy). No one will ever take you seriously, just a piece of advice smile
6 oct. 2020 à 10 h 49
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Quoting: carterhart
How would you know it's false information? These talks could've taken place for all you know. So saying I'm spreading false information without knowing that as a certainty is no surprise to me anymore after seeing you argue me in this thread. I don't see how I'm whining here, I'm clearly just arguing a point and you result to "whining" and "crying". Grow up buddy, maybe be a little more professional when you engage in these kind of discussions rather than get emotional and call guys names (like Jimmy). No one will ever take you seriously, just a piece of advice smile

Anyone with a brain knows it's bull****. LOL @ being professional from someone who has played victim because we don't like your stupid proposal.
6 oct. 2020 à 10 h 53
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Quoting: MethodMan
Anyone with a brain knows it's bull****. LOL @ being professional from someone who has played victim because we don't like your stupid proposal.


Wow... yet again saying it's my proposal when I have a disclaimer in the description saying its from a podcast. Keep it up buddy you're looking real good!
6 oct. 2020 à 10 h 55
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Quoting: carterhart
Wow... yet again saying it's my proposal when I have a disclaimer in the description saying its from a podcast. Keep it up buddy you're looking real good!

It's "yours" because you posted it. Not hard to figure out dude. Pull your head out of your ass.
6 oct. 2020 à 11 h 18
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Quoting: MethodMan
It's "yours" because you posted it. Not hard to figure out dude. Pull your head out of your ass.


Lol stay in school...
 
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