????? Sure Ottawa might give the Isles Gaborik, his LTIR does not have any consequences "in making the money work". What is that fantasy about trading LTIR players.
No reason why Seattle would have any interest in Ladd. Sorry he's an Islander one way or another till his contract ends.

It is possible to move Boychuk, it would take a bit to move him tho

Listen, I always take criticism on posts, it’s expected on this website and I enjoy it, but I’d expect someone with almost 33,000 posts to understand although his contract is insured the Sens pay real dollars every year to have him not play. So instead of paying him to not play so they can use his cap hit to reach the floor, they can pay komarov to actually be on the ice and help develop the youth, because the Sens don’t like spending money. (Ie. buying out Bobby Ryan to save a couple mil.)

And the VGK took a first to take the 5mil of the ghost of Grabovski, if the Isles have to send an extra prospect for them to take Ladd who actually plays. I’m sure both sides will.

So I don’t like the arrogant attitude from somebody who doesn’t know what they are talking about.

I think that’s the fear, us Islander fans really don’t know how our prospect are going to transition to the NHL game. Needing the 1st in 2021 for expansion, I’m not sure how much it would cost to move the full 6mil and 2 years of boychuk without giving that pick up. Leddy being a younger, reasonable middle paid LHD makes him much easier to move even in this cap situation.

I think you could be right regarding contracts.

If boychuk doesn’t get traded, I can’t see him playing more than 10-12 games next season. Dobson will be a regular.

According to staple , they’re not high on bellows so I would assume he’s used to dump a contract and wahlstrom gets the 3rd line rw spot.

He’ll most likely be an islander for the remainder of his contract , but there’s a decent chance he suffers a career ending injury during that time and LTIRetires

Gee, your wrote "his contract is insured". By definition an insurance company pays for Gaborik's contract NOT the Ottawa Senators. Shouldn't be too hard to understand. Ottawa has no problem reaching the cap floor. They just put Gaborik IR and that his cap goes against the 81.5m cap total.
So, keep your ignorant attitude, I truly understand that you don't have the ability to learn.

Isles like most NHL teams are hoping for a compliance buyout before the Seattle draft.

https://www.overtimeheroics.net/index.php/2020/08/25/maple-leafs-possible-ltir-contracts-for-cap-relief/

He’s owed $600,000 in real dollars this year, and this is an article about your leafs, I guess I have the ability to read at least.

(600,000 to have him not play is something the Sens would like to not have to do if they don’t have to)

Enjoy your night.

Yes the sens pay about 15% of gaborik’s contract but they use that to reach the floor rather than shelling out the other over 4M to get there. Therefore, the sens or any budget team will not move insured contacts. It just doesn’t make sense for them. Anyways, the only use for LTIR for the isles would be to protect against bonuses and the isles don’t have many of those.

The rangers should be one of the teams with interest in LTIR contracts though, insured or not.

Ik the way you look at gaborik is that the sens are paying him about 600K to do nothing but he’s also taking up almost 5M in cap space. Therefore, they get 4M closer to the cap floor without having to pay someone the other 4M. That’s why Gaborik makes sense for the sens to keep. Unless Ottawa is willing to shell out money

Absolutely, you are right, the trade theory is komarov (High cap hit for what he does production wise) would be a nice tool for the Sens as they rebuild. (Locker room, blocking shot, PK) stuff you’d rather 18-20 year olds limit. Rangers should be looking at LTIR’s this is just a trade scenario I can imagine if Lou trades with Dorian. The only reason I’m irritated is the way the guy I’m arguing with has 33,000 posts and is treating the my post as a serious komarov for Mathews who says no?, type of arm chair. Just wanted to show that I understand how the sport works and he’s not the only one who understands hockey outside of what we see on the ice. Just two different perspectives.

Thank you for posting something constructive.

For sure, I agree, but I don’t think komarov is so much wanted in Ottawa, especially if the isles want gaborik back. I don’t think the sens want to move gaborik for the reasons above. The sens can get komarov type players for much cheaper (or the isles can pay them to take him). They aren’t going to move dead cap space for komarov. They want dead cap space. I just don’t think komarov makes sense for the sens unless they get something for taking him.

Also, I agree with what the guy above said, just didn’t like the way he said it, but that’s with almost everyone on this site so...

Again, I stress, the rangers need to get an LTIR contract or 2 fast. They have way too many bonuses to deal with and if they sign their RFA’s in the next while they can’t make a big UFA move until they move money out (or get LTIR) or they can’t sign their RFA’s if they sign a big UFA. They are a big market team, they can afford to take on non insured LTIR and they need to if they want to improve this summer

Flames have 0 interest in another LD

Hickey is really for anyone looking for an experienced 5/6 LHD, I just picked the flames due to the Brodie and Hamonic Situation (both RHD’s) and the possible overturn and uncertainty of the flames backend might have due to losing either of them, and also seeing people on this website including Hanafin in trades which I don’t know if I would do if I’m the flames depending on the return, but would leave a LHD spot open and if they don’t want a rookie full time in the 5/6 slot. Realistically he’s a buyout candidate but if a team wants him for cheap if we retain a little, works for us.

I dont think the Flames would want Hickey honestly. Yes they'll probably lose Brodie and Hamonic but with Valimaki back in the fold, and assuming they keep Gio and Hanifin (despite all the trade talk around him), they got no real need for him. That 2M would be spent better elsewhere (perhaps towards a goalie?)

Leddy to the Kings makes sense, especially at that price. Dude can still play defense, and has like 2 years left, so it wouldnt be much of a burden to the Kings considering their financial situation. They also need defenseman to use as a stop-gap for their prospects after trading Muzzin and Martinez over the past two years. I do think they can leverage a 6th or 7th out of New York though (every draft pick counts).

I think Pulock AAV goes higher, Barzal deal makes sense to me considering the recent trend of RFAS signing bridge deals, and I think Toews would come in higher too. I do see Greene and Martin back in NY aswell. Bobby Ryan is interesting, I think he'd appreciate a culture like the Isles. But I do think he gets more than league min.

Komarov for Gaborik is interesting, the question for me is how much Leo is getting paid in actual cash considering Melnylk. I think the fit is there especially considering the connection between DJ Smith and him dating back to their Toronto days but I dont necessarily think Melnyk would do it. Dorion did give the Leafs a third for paying Zaitsevs signing bonus.

Honestly, I think the best move for the Isles would be to rid themselves of Boychuk and maybe even Clutterbuck (theyd probably retain on Clutterbuck) in the same trade. I dont like trading firsts to get rid of contracts especially after how the Marleau trade went down for us, but it might be worth a shot.

Quick question: Hows Oliver Wahlstrom coming along? Just curious to where he is.

Just because fans repeatedly regurgitate as something, doesn't make it likely, basically people believe Hanifin is available because we were willing to move him at the deadline for a signed Hall & Vatanen, and at the time, we had Brodie would can play LD as well. There are also some that believe it's okay to trade Hanifin because they think Valimaki is top 4 ready. SO no trading Hanifin wouldn't open up anything except maybe the #7 spot as Kylington woould slide into the lineup.

The only uncertainty IMO with our backend is what RD we will acquire. Due to the emergence of Andersson last season, Hamonic was essentially replaced mid-season by Andersson and signing Mackey

Yes, I can read, but in your original statement you said the Senators saved money by this trade.....well they don't, which was the basis of my disagreement of LTIR nonsense.
So the Sens pay 600,000 for Gaborik and then may want to pay 1m for a 4th line winger....for a total of 1.6.
Now do the Sens want pay 3m for Komarov (minus the 600,000 Gaborik trade). which is a 2.4m cost versus the 1.6m?
Having 4.6m Gaborik with the Sens ups their "cap floor" versus the proposed trade, though I don't think Ottawa will have trouble with the floor regardless.
You're right that might be good value for Komarov...the 2.4m and what he brings to a team...versus the 1.6m option.
Just wonder if Komarov wants to play for a poor team in his last NHL season when he can easily block any trade to a team with cap.

Wahlstrom seems to have found his scoring touch a little more in the SHL, over in Europe, I think he might get a few games as a fill in like last year but I think he is another full season away from getting a real look at becoming an everyday player, unless of course injury’s force the islanders hand. I think once he is in he will slot as the 3RW unless the isles decide to move eberle (who’s NTC modifies next year) or Bailey in the 2-3 seasons.

I agree, any movement of Gaborik (to anyone) would be determined by how much Ottawa will be forced to spend to ice a hockey team this season. If they are going to reach the cap floor without Gaborik I think they will move him to save the cash. If not they will keep him.

As for komarov going to any non-playoff team, I think komarov is looking to stick around in the league and I can see the Sens wanting him for a cheaper (Martin to the Leafs-esk) contract 2-3 year deal for a low cost/AAV even after this contract expires. Consistent role player that has a good history with teaching youth the right way to be a pro (Marner and Beauvillier).

I love the back and fourth deep nuanced hockey discussion. Just come in a little less hot next time haha.

OTT is not moving Gaborik, paying him 600K + a open spot for one of their prospects is more valuable than having komorov play taking away a spot from a player that is better than him.