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Re-Do of My Almost Perfect 20-21 Pittsburgh Pens Roster - with 3-Team Trade

Créé par: Sidstick87
Date de création initiale: oct 3, 2020
Publié: 3 oct à 16 h 05
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Explications
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The PENS have [5] MUST GETS this OFF-SEASON : Other than getting Younger & Faster

1- 3rd LINE CENTER -------------------------------------- I love McCann as a LWer w/ his shot & his speed & would waste him at 3C
2- Top 6 RH- Winger ------------------------------------- NEED a PP#1 shot on Left wall & to help Geno w/ Zone Entries
3- 1B type back-up GOALIE --------------------------- With all the Back-to-Backs & Compressed Season need a 1B (DeSmith is not it)
4- 3rd Pairing RHD-man ------------------------------ Ruhwedel is a perfect #7, Its a big mistake to think at 31 he is all of a sudden good enough
5- 1- Physical type player ------------------------------ I'm just sooo Tired of getting beat on & Beat up

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The [7] ANSWERs TO (MUST GETS) :

1) - The Huge 3- Team Trade :
- RAKELL (The guy we should have Targeted) & getting that Top 6 RH-Winger that has a great shot for the Left Wall spot & Can help on Zone Entries w/ Geno on PP#1 ++ a far better 5 on 5 player.
- Max JONES - I've always loved this 6'-2" / 220lb beast that can skate w/ anyone in NHL, goes 150mph every shift, will also throw big hits, be physical, & still has some offense to his game.

2) - The STROME Trade & getting a former Top 3 pick & "Real" 3rd Line Center that has Size, 2-way ability, & skill. ** A 3rd line of : McCann - Strome - Rusty would be a Nitemare matchup problem.

3) - The GRANLUND {UFA} 1yr signing - #64 is a 150 times more skilled Dom Simon type of player & would be the type of Winger that Sid loves.

4) - The 1B & #3 Goalie Upgrades:
- Adin Hill - With all the back-to-back gms next yr - Pens must get a 1B Type Goalie & the 6'-4" Clone of Matt Murray (w/ a better glove) would be a HUGE upgrade over DeSmith.
- Sam Montembeault - The former 3rd Rdr has been a fav of mine since his draft yr & provides some Insurance for Expansion Draft.

5) - The 3rd Pairing RHD of LYUBUSHKIN / Ruhwedel / Riikola would create a battle for that last spot in the D-pairings.

6) - The GRABNER {UFA} 1yr signing - always loved his speed & w/ him as the #13 Forward, he would still play bc The Pens always have atleast 1 Injury?

7) - MUST ADD DEPTH - All players on LTIR could see time w/ Pens during season


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**************~~~~~~~~ 3 - TEAM TRADE ~ {Break-Dahn} ~~~~~ Pens - Ducks - Preds ~~~~~~~~~******************

[PIT] gets :
~ R/W- Ricky "Ricardo" RAKELL #67 -- [$3.79m]
~ LW- Max "Beast" JONES #49 -- [$863,]

* Pens get the guy they should have targeted originally in Rakell & a young player I love in Jones.
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[ANA] gets :
~ C/RW- Calle JARNKROK #19 -- [$2m]
~ LW- Ellie TOLVANEN #28 -- [$894,]
~ RHD- Jesper LINDGREN #___ -- [$775,]
~ 2020 - 2nd Rdr [NJD] Pick #37 Overall

* Ducks get a Top 9 RW or C in Jarnkrok back that had same goals as Rakell, a Top Forward Prospect in Tolvanen, a {C+ to B-} RHD Prospect, & Very high 2nd Rdr back.
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[NSH] gets :
~ LW- Jason ZUCKER #16 -- [$5.5m]
~ C/RW- Sam LAFFERTY #37 -- [RFA]

* Preds get the 3rd LWer right finally, from Fiala to Granlund & now to Zucker as a Top line LWer. Also a younger, fast, & versatile C/RW in Laffy

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Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Angello, Anthony2725 000 $
Miletic, Sam2715 000 $
Strome, Dylan32 800 000 $
Lyubushkin, Ilya1950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Granlund, Mikael13 900 000 $
Grabner, Michael11 100 000 $
Transactions
PIT
  1. 2021 5e round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Johnson, Jack
  2. Aston-Reese, Zach
Détails additionnels:
*[PIT] takes advantage of ZAR's value being high as a Top analytical Defensive Forward in NHL.
PIT
  1. Strome, Dylan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Entwistle, Mackenzie
Détails additionnels:
*[PIT] finally land a 3C !!!
- STROME- is a 23-24yr old - 6-3 / 200+lb Perfect 3C behind 87 & 71. Is a good 2-way player already & will just keep getting better on offensive side. Need to put fast skaters on his wing tho.
- ENTWISTLE- The former 3rd Rdr is another big Center at 6-3 but is a bottom 6 type prospect who I've always liked a ton & is a Hallander replacement.
CHI
  1. Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]
  2. Björkqvist, Kasper
Détails additionnels:
*[CHI] gets the youngest & most proven #1 Goalie on the market.
- MURRAY- Yah he had a down & injury riddled yr but he is only 26 & is a 2-Time Cup Winning Starting Goalie that needs a change & will be great again.
- Bjorkqvist- The former 2nd Rdr isn't rated highly as a prospect but w/ his motor & how he works out 24/7 he will be a bottom 6 NHLer for a long time IMO.
PIT
  1. Hill, Adin
  2. Lyubushkin, Ilya [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
*[PIT] Adds my fav young Goalie & the needed RHD-man.
~ HILL- is a 6'-4" clone of Matt Murray w/ a better glove IMO. Have no clue why ARZ didn't lock him up long term, unless to trade him?
~ LYUBUSHKIN- is more of a physical #6 to #7 Defensive RHD-man that Improved his passing a ton this yr & is maybe getting used to the smaller rinks.
ARI
  1. Simon, Dominik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Sceviour, Colton
  3. Åberg, Pontus [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
*[ARZ] gets 2 cheap Top 12 forward options.
- SIMON- is an ultra skilled Top 9 great 2-way LW/RW but if his shot improves could be a legit Top 6 guy. HCRT loved him here. Prob takes a 1-2yr @ $1m- $1.4m deal
- SCEVIOUR- is a solid /cheap 4th line RWer.
PIT
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
  2. Tolvanen, Eeli
  3. 2020 2e round pick (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
* All Players & Pick to [ANA]
NSH
  1. Zucker, Jason
  2. Lafferty, Sam [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
*** START of 3-TEAM TRADE ***
~~~ [ANA] ~ [NSH] ~ [PIT] ~~~
{Break-down in Description Part}
PIT
  1. Rakell, Rickard
  2. Jones, Max
Détails additionnels:
*** END of 3-TEAM TRADE ***
~~~ [ANA] ~ [NSH] ~ [PIT] ~~~
{Break-down in Description Part}
ANA
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
  2. Tolvanen, Eeli
  3. Lindgren, Jesper
  4. 2020 2e round pick (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
20' - 2nd Rdr is #37 Overall
[ANA] has pick #36
PIT
  1. Montembeault, Samuel [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
*[PIT] gets a young #3 Goalie prospect w/ NHL experience & some insurance for Expansion Draft.
~ MONTY- have liked the 6'-3" quick Goalie since his Draft yr but fell out of favor in FLA over Driedger + they have Knight as their future #1.
FLA
  1. DeSmith, Casey
Détails additionnels:
*[FLA] gets a solid back-up Goalie
- DeSMITH- Altho in AHL, DeSmith is still a good back up type for a Legit Veteran #1 like BOB.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Nick Bjugstad: 2 050 000 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
NJD
PIT
ANA
2022
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 867 952 $0 $850 000 $632 048 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Granlund, Mikael
3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA
ANA
Rakell, Rickard
3 789 444 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
PIT
Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
PIT
McCann, Jared
2 940 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
Strome, Dylan
2 800 000 $
C
RFA
PIT
Rust, Bryan
3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
ANA
Jones, Max
863 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
3 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
Grabner, Michael
1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
PIT
Letang, Kris
7 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
Jarry, Tristan
3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 3
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
4 025 175 $
DG
UFA - 5
PIT
Marino, John
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
ARI
Hill, Adin
800 000 $
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Matheson, Michael
4 875 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Lyubushkin, Ilya
950 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
1 150 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Rakell, R.
Guentzel, J.
Crosby, S.
Letang, K.
Malkin, E.
Avantage numérique 2
Kapanen, K.
Strome, D.
Granlund, M.
Marino, J.
McCann, J.
Infériorité numérique 1
Letang, K.
Dumoulin, B.
Tanev, B.
Blueger, T.
Infériorité numérique 2
Marino, J.
Pettersson, M.
Rust, B.
Jones, M.

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3 oct à 16 h 05
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
You arent getting Strome for Murray. The maximum I would pay for him is a 2nd round pick.


I wouldn't even do that. The Hawks can't take him unless they take cap back.
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3 oct à 16 h 29
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I dought the Hawks trade goes through
Arizona declines aswell
3 oct à 16 h 58
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
You arent getting Strome for Murray. The maximum I would pay for him is a 2nd round pick.


how many times does this have to go round and round. You aren't getting Murray for a 2nd. And the Chicago GM knows this.
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Strome is a 23 year old 2C RFA that since joining the Hawks 2 years ago has put up .76ppg at the ages of 21 and 22 years old; plenty more upside as well to Strome. He is worth quite a bit more then Murray.
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how many times does this have to go round and round. You aren't getting Murray for a 2nd. And the Chicago GM knows this.


Plenty of goalies in the market available, so no problem as we are looking elsewhere as well. Murray is a streaky goaltender that I would be very hesitant to count on as a #1 and is not even close to be worth Strome especially when the goalie market is flooded.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Plenty of goalies in the market available, so no problem as we are looking elsewhere as well. Murray is a streaky goaltender that I would be very hesitant to count on as a #1 and is not even close to be worth Strome especially when the goalie market is flooded.


plenty of goalies on the market. Like every goalie on the market is old as hell.
The whole thing this offseason was....we'll sign Lehner.....well that's not gonna happen now is it.

People to to come back down to reality. The goalie market is good if you want a long term contract on a goalie that's already 31+ with falling numbers.
You want a young goalie in their prime who is good enough to win a cup and is lights out when he's hot. You are going to give up more than a 2nd.
But hey, go on with it. Hell I've already seen one person post to me today that 38 year old Lundqvist, is going to be a starting goalie. So you can't get much crazier that some of the other stupid things posted on here.
You weren't getting Lehner you aren't getting Markström and everything else there is looking to be well over the hill. But go ahead with that.
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ZAR’s value is high enough to take on Johnson? C’mon now.

I haven’t seen a 13 point forward with that type of value
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Quoting: pharrow
plenty of goalies on the market. Like every goalie on the market is old as hell.
The whole thing this offseason was....we'll sign Lehner.....well that's not gonna happen now is it.

People to to come back down to reality. The goalie market is good if you want a long term contract on a goalie that's already 31+ with falling numbers.
You want a young goalie in their prime who is good enough to win a cup and is lights out when he's hot. You are going to give up more than a 2nd.
But hey, go on with it. Hell I've already seen one person post to me today that 38 year old Lundqvist, is going to be a starting goalie. So you can't get much crazier that some of the other stupid things posted on here.
You weren't getting Lehner you aren't getting Markström and everything else there is looking to be well over the hill. But go ahead with that.


You sound mad, why are you so mad bro? Are you Murray's agent?

Anyway, Murray is streaky and did well behind a stacked team that played good defense. Last year not so much. I'd easily rather have Crawford, Lehner, Markstrom, Korpisalo, Kuemper, MAF....all guys that are supposed to be available. Murray isn't top of the list despite some of the guys being short term solutions.
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NSH declines. That's too much for Zucker. Rather try Tolvanen out on the 2nd line, and keep the other assets. Lafferty isn't of much interest.
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Quoting: ChiHawk
You sound mad, why are you so mad bro? Are you Murray's agent?

Anyway, Murray is streaky and did well behind a stacked team that played good defense. Last year not so much. I'd easily rather have Crawford, Lehner, Markstrom, Korpisalo, Kuemper, MAF....all guys that are supposed to be available. Murray isn't top of the list despite some of the guys being short term solutions.


good defense?
He's had JJ in front of him the last 2 years. Schultz the last what 5? They won a cup with Ron Hainsey as their 1RD.... like Holly **** good defense? When?
He stood on his head getting pummeled by pucks.

Look at your goalie list... I'd easily rather have these guys who are not signing here or are 38 years old.........
Get over yourself.
Honestly if anyone here is mad it's you. In denial that you aren't getting Murray for a 2nd.
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Quoting: pharrow
how many times does this have to go round and round. You aren't getting Murray for a 2nd. And the Chicago GM knows this.


Like I said, I would pay a maximum of a second round pick for Murray.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Like I said, I would pay a maximum of a second round pick for Murray.


https://pittsburghhockeynow.com/dans-daily-dreger-says-pittsburgh-penguins-trade-ask-for-murray-not-exhorbitant/

Supposedly JR isn't even asking for a lot and teams are still saying no. What does alot mean...IDK
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Quoting: exo2769
https://pittsburghhockeynow.com/dans-daily-dreger-says-pittsburgh-penguins-trade-ask-for-murray-not-exhorbitant/

Supposedly JR isn't even asking for a lot and teams are still saying no. What does alot mean...IDK


Ur 1st mistake is listening to that fool ... Most of the real Pens beat writers even make fun of Dan K .. aka Bud Moonshine, The dude is a joke
3 oct à 18 h 13
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Quoting: Sidstick87
Ur 1st mistake is listening to that fool ... Most of the real Pens beat writers even make fun of Dan K .. aka Bud Moonshine, The dude is a joke


Darren Dreger? Thats who I'm talking about.
3 oct à 18 h 14
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
You arent getting Strome for Murray. The maximum I would pay for him is a 2nd round pick.


A 2nd Rd pick for a 26yr old 2-time Cup winning starting Goalie..... Alrighty then
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Quoting: exo2769
Darren Dreger? Thats who I'm talking about.


Dreger just said GMJR wants a 1stRdr , a Roster player like Murray (Same age), or a top prospect & a second on that radio show yesterday
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Quoting: Sidstick87
Ur 1st mistake is listening to that fool ... Most of the real Pens beat writers even make fun of Dan K .. aka Bud Moonshine, The dude is a joke


15 year old with a website calls himself a beat writer.
No wonder these people are clueless.
If they want news on the penguins Try the trib or the Post. Not that lame ass site.
It's like they have no self respect.
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Quoting: pharrow
good defense?
He's had JJ in front of him the last 2 years. Schultz the last what 5? They won a cup with Ron Hainsey as their 1RD.... like Holly **** good defense? When?
He stood on his head getting pummeled by pucks.

Look at your goalie list... I'd easily rather have these guys who are not signing here or are 38 years old.........
Get over yourself.
Honestly if anyone here is mad it's you. In denial that you aren't getting Murray for a 2nd.


Defense involves 5 players on the ice playing in front of the goalie at any time not the 3 guys you mentioned.

Calm down clown, you've got your panties in a bunch over nothing.

Hawks aren't giving the Pens Strome for a Murray end of story. Moving on smile
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Quoting: Sidstick87
Dreger just said GMJR wants a 1stRdr , a Roster player like Murray (Same age), or a top prospect & a second on that radio show yesterday


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHWK3TyQ5NU

Talk about you're all time backfires....
3 oct à 18 h 34
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Quoting: pharrow
15 year old with a website calls himself a beat writer.
No wonder these people are clueless.
If they want news on the penguins Try the trib or the Post. Not that lame ass site.
It's like they have no self respect.


LOL, I think Ive been blocked by Bud Moonshine on every thing possible
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Quoting: exo2769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHWK3TyQ5NU

Talk about you're all time backfires....


I had an 86 Cougar that would take a yr off ur life when it backfired & have a older S175 Bobcat that makes ur ears ring when it backfires
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3 oct à 18 h 45
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Quoting: exo2769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHWK3TyQ5NU

Talk about you're all time backfires....


BTW,
when u can see the person & he talks... Its usually called TV
when u can only hear the person but not see the person... its usually Radio or Podcast

But I guess it takes time to learn these things
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Defense involves 5 players on the ice playing in front of the goalie at any time not the 3 guys you mentioned.

Calm down clown, you've got your panties in a bunch over nothing.

Hawks aren't giving the Pens Strome for a Murray end of story. Moving on smile


yeah, you spout out foolishness and other people are "getting their panties in a bunch"

What the F does that tell you about those other 5 people on the defense when Ron Hainsey was their 1RD........ Go sit down.
 
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