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Same Team but Lundqvist for Markstrom

Créé par: OldNYIfan
Équipe: 2020-21 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 1 oct. 2020
Publié: 2 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The Rangers' buyout of Henrik Lundqvist's last year presents an interesting opportunity for Vancouver. Stepping off into the deep end by letting Jacob Markstrom walk, relying on Thatcher Demko to be their goalie of the future, and signing Lundqvist to back up Demko solves most of Vancouver's problems with the expansion draft and the challenges of re-signing Elias Pettersson and Quinn Hughes to their second deals. I've also constructed two deals that create additional cap space.

The New Jersey deal: The Devils have only two RWs in their system under contract (including 2021 UFA Kyle Palmieri) plus RFA Josh Anderson, with no one to promote from within. I think that they could use a rental RW and PKer. They get to move a third from 2021 to 2020 while paying a very late fourth for Brandon Sutter with 20% retention.

The Anaheim Deal: Modeled on the Backes acquisition, this exchange gives the Ducks a B-prospect RD plus a 2021 first. Vancouver gets an expansion-draft-exempt B-prospect center (where the Canucks have virtually no one), a homeboy and relief from 75% of Loui Eriksson's cap hit, as well as a fourth-round pick next June.

I'm assuming, as some Vancouver supporters have stated, that Pettersson will get a long-term deal for $9 million (i.e., $8 million more than he's making now) and Hughes $6 million ($5 million more than he's making now) for a shorter-term deal. That means that Vancouver would have to come up with at least $13 million in new money for those two players.

Next off-season the Canucks have the following amounts coming off the roster shown here:

Edler = $6 million
Pearson = $3.75 million
Benn = $2 million
Spooner = $1.033 million
Baertschi = $0.966 million
Sutter = $0.875 million

That's $14.625 million: enough for the two young stars plus promotion of Juolevi and Rafferty to replace the two outgoing defenders.

Note that Ferland's cap hit is included in the $81.3 million total shown for this team. If he were to go onto the LTIR list, that would leave his cap hit to sign a replacement free-agent forward.

GM Jim Benning might prefer to promote Juolevi, Rafferty or Rathbone rather than re-sign Oscar Fantenberg.

Some of my free-agent figures may seem a little high, but this is primarily a budgeting exercise because I don't think that this team needs drastic changes; Vancouver is (unfortunately for me) on the upswing. I predict that they'll be in the playoffs next year.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 666 667 $
22 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
21 300 000 $
2950 000 $
2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
45 250 000 $
34 750 000 $
22 500 000 $
31 750 000 $
2950 000 $
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VAN
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Sutter, Brandon (875 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (VAN)
2.
VAN
  1. Morand, Antoine
  2. Sideroff, Deven [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Eriksson, Loui (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Woo, Jett
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C, AG
UFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
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UFA - 4
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
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UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 666 667 $2 666 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
DG
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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2 oct. 2020 à 15 h 59
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Ducks want nothing to do with Loui
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Ducks want nothing to do with Loui


Ducks want everything to do with a 2021 first. Take a look at Eriksson's contract specifics and tell me you wouldn't pay that to have Eriksson eat nachos in the pressbox in return for another first.
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Hank...If Canada is a division next season he isn't going there. Only team he might go to and that is only if the borders are open for travel would be Toronto. WSH is the likely destination and that's if he plays
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Ducks want everything to do with a 2021 first. Take a look at Eriksson's contract specifics and tell me you wouldn't pay that to have Eriksson eat nachos in the pressbox in return for another first.


True. But cap space is a ****
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Don't think anyone would pay that price for B. Sutter, a Bjugstad type of deal is much more plausible
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True. But cap space is a ****


Once Kesler is moved from the IR to the LTIR, we have $7 million in cap space with only a back-up goalie to sign plus replacing Agozzino's $700 with Comtois' slightly larger hit. Eriksson's cap hit is $4.5 million with the retention, which is why I included it in the deal.
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Don't think anyone would pay that price for B. Sutter, a Bjugstad type of deal is much more plausible


I wouldn't mind that at all.
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Once Kesler is moved from the IR to the LTIR, we have $7 million in cap space with only a back-up goalie to sign plus replacing Agozzino's $700 with Comtois' slightly larger hit. Eriksson's cap hit is $4.5 million with the retention, which is why I included it in the deal.


Hm. Fair enough.
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Hm. Fair enough.


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I'll use this: https://bluebulletreport.com/2019/06/05/2018-19-draft-model-update-part-iii-blue-bullet-draft-pick-value-chart/

as a reference to the math in my post.

Without retention, Sutter is owed about as much money as Marc Staal was. Given that the Red Wings, Rangers - and through this example - the Canucks are not cash-poor teams, it's obvious that the real cap savings are what teams are after here. We can use this information to deduce a cost for dumping any contract:

Sutter has 76.75% the cap hit that Marc Staal does, thus the compensation should be equivalent.

Assuming that the Rangers are on pace for 95 points (very small increase to their pace this year), it should be expected that the Rangers finish 15th in the league, and their 2nd round pick will be the 49th overall pick. Remember: Seattle joins the draft next year and bumps picks by one from where they would be in a 31-team format.

According to the source above, the 49th overall pick has an average value of 4.3. The math begins here: 76.75% of 4.3 is 3.3, and thus we have the value of the draft pick that Vancouver would need to compensate New Jersey with in order to clear Sutter from the books. Note that there is no return for the Canucks besides "Future Considerations". The draft pick in question is pick #71, a reasonably early 3rd round pick. Right now, the Canucks only have their own 3rd round pick in next years' draft, and if they finish equivalent to where they did this season, their 3rd round pick should be the 78th pick. The difference in value between the #71 and #78 picks is significant (1.2), but can be bridged by pick #108, a pick in which the Canucks - on an identical pace to the season past - would be very close to having (109).

If you believe in the math, and if New Jersey is willing to be cooperative, the cost to dump Sutter's final year on the Devils would be the Vancouver 2021 3rd and the Vancouver 2022 4th, expecting nothing in return. It's not a steep price, and would at least save the Canucks the $875k you're retaining here.
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I'll use this: https://bluebulletreport.com/2019/06/05/2018-19-draft-model-update-part-iii-blue-bullet-draft-pick-value-chart/

as a reference to the math in my post.

Without retention, Sutter is owed about as much money as Marc Staal was. Given that the Red Wings, Rangers - and through this example - the Canucks are not cash-poor teams, it's obvious that the real cap savings are what teams are after here. We can use this information to deduce a cost for dumping any contract:

Sutter has 76.75% the cap hit that Marc Staal does, thus the compensation should be equivalent.

Assuming that the Rangers are on pace for 95 points (very small increase to their pace this year), it should be expected that the Rangers finish 15th in the league, and their 2nd round pick will be the 49th overall pick. Remember: Seattle joins the draft next year and bumps picks by one from where they would be in a 31-team format.

According to the source above, the 49th overall pick has an average value of 4.3. The math begins here: 76.75% of 4.3 is 3.3, and thus we have the value of the draft pick that Vancouver would need to compensate New Jersey with in order to clear Sutter from the books. Note that there is no return for the Canucks besides "Future Considerations". The draft pick in question is pick #71, a reasonably early 3rd round pick. Right now, the Canucks only have their own 3rd round pick in next years' draft, and if they finish equivalent to where they did this season, their 3rd round pick should be the 78th pick. The difference in value between the #71 and #78 picks is significant (1.2), but can be bridged by pick #108, a pick in which the Canucks - on an identical pace to the season past - would be very close to having (109).

If you believe in the math, and if New Jersey is willing to be cooperative, the cost to dump Sutter's final year on the Devils would be the Vancouver 2021 3rd and the Vancouver 2022 4th, expecting nothing in return. It's not a steep price, and would at least save the Canucks the $875k you're retaining here.


I would do that deal every day of the month. Thanks for the education. I hope Canucks fans will read this.
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