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Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 1 oct. 2020
Publié: 1 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I think there needs to be more going over to Edmonton but you guys just need to shed cap right? Let me know
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
13 150 000 $
15 250 000 $
21 750 000 $
14 750 000 $
21 550 000 $
2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 850 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Lafreniere, Alexis
3925 000 $
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NYR
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas [Droits de RFA]
EDM
  1. Andersson, Lias
  2. Reunanen, Tarmo
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
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NYR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (ARI)
NJD
  1. Gauthier, Julien
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
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NMC
UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
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11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
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UFA - 2
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Lafreniere, Alexis
925 000 $925 000 $
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
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RFA - 2
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UFA - 1
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
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UFA - 4
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DG
UFA - 1
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
G
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
DG
RFA - 3
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
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M-NTC
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1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 5
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Nope.
1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 6
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Nope to both
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1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 6
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Nope.


what would the counter be?
1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 6
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Nope.


You probably aren’t even gonna qualify him
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1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 8
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Athanasiou is really bad. Edmonton isnt even going to qualify him. You're better off resigning fast.
1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 8
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I thought Edmonton wasn't going to qualify AA? So we don't need to send anything and can just wait to sign him as UFA.

We could throw them like a 5th or something if we want exclusive negotiating rights I guess? But I'd really rather not spend any assets on him.
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1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 9
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Athanasiou is really bad. Edmonton isnt even going to qualify him. You're better off resigning fast.


hes not really bad so lets stop exaggerating.
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1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 10
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what would the counter be?


Quoting: csick
You probably aren’t even gonna qualify him


Yah, but I don’t like Andersson at all. I don’t know what my counter offer would be since you don’t have a second this year. You wouldn’t do Brett Howden would you?
1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 11
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Quoting: csick
You probably aren’t even gonna qualify him


I agree, if a GM out there thinks Athanasiou at 3 mil is definitely in their interest, and Holland indeed does not, then a trade like this is absolutely what should happen. We just don't know how GM's truly all feel about that 3 mil price tag. If, as reported, Holland is not interested, this is essentially the equivalent of at least two 3rd round picks, with Andersson having upside still to be a solid bottom 6 centre at some point. Considering that the Oil could simply lose the two 2nd rounders they gave up for AA due to this flat cap...I think Holland does this.
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i would take that for just the 3rd
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1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 12
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Quoting: warnken21
what would the counter be?


Just NOPE.. let them sign AA

Not interested in giving 2 prospects and a pick for mediocrity.
1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 13
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Quoting: warnken21
what would the counter be?



Because I would want a second for him, but it looks like you don’t have any for 2 years like Edmonton.
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Yah, but I don’t like Andersson at all. I don’t know what my counter offer would be since you don’t have a second this year. You wouldn’t do Brett Howden would you?


rangers are high on howden. Plus if you aren't going to qualify him then wouldn't you just want to get something? Andersson does have problems I understand that. But he is readjusting and is doing great overseas. Renuanen is going to be good you heard it hear first. And the 3rd is a 3rd. you are getting something for someone you definitely aren't going to qualify. to me its a win for the oilers.
1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 14
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Gauthier isn't particularly good so how many spots is that moving up?
1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 15
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Gauthier isn't particularly good so how many spots is that moving up?


he is good just never given the chance. You are moving up from 22 to 18.
1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 16
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rangers are high on howden. Plus if you aren't going to qualify him then wouldn't you just want to get something? Andersson does have problems I understand that. But he is readjusting and is doing great overseas. Renuanen is going to be good you heard it hear first. And the 3rd is a 3rd. you are getting something for someone you definitely aren't going to qualify. to me its a win for the oilers.


Again I don’t like Andersson, so I wouldn’t do it. I would want to look for a second on either 2020 or 2021, but you don’t have any.
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Because I would want a second for him, but it looks like you don’t have any for 2 years like Edmonton.


You want a second for a guy you likely won't qualify?
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You want a second for a guy you likely won't qualify?


just smh
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1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 18
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You want a second for a guy you likely won't qualify?



Hey don’t trade for him then. I don’t care. That’s my asking price. He still is good you know. If we had the cap, we would qualify, it’s only because we don’t have much cap space.
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1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 23
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You want a second for a guy you likely won't qualify?

I think the move would be to QO AA and then flip him.
1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 29
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Hey don’t trade for him then. I don’t care. That’s my asking price. He still is good you know. If we had the cap, we would qualify, it’s only because we don’t have much cap space.


I’m betting holland is only leaking to media he’s trying to move AA so the agent will see the market is very dry for his services at 3million and when holland offers him a one year deal at 2 million there is no hesitation on wanting to test free agency and it gets done quickly.
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1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 33
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I think the move would be to QO AA and then flip him.


Qualifying is dangerous. If offer qualifying offer he can then take it to arbitration. One season removed from 30 goals 20 the two season before there’s no certainty how arbitration would take the current state of the league into consideration for that reason I wouldn’t even risk it. Very possible could see a 3.5-4 million dollar ruling in this case
1 oct. 2020 à 19 h 52
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Quoting: ken_holland
I think the move would be to QO AA and then flip him.


It could be, but if Athanasiou accepts the QA he locks in at least one year at $3,000,000. I'm not sure that under the current circumstances Edmonton wants to pay that kind of money to that particular player. There is also the possibility that the player files for salary arbitration, which could be very problematic for Edmonton if the ruling favours the player. If I understand the arbitration rules correctly, Holland can always decline to accept the results which would give Athanasiou the opportunity to test the UFA market. If the Oilers choose to initiate arbitration it is possible that the process allows a minimum contract offer. For Athanasiou that would be 1 X $2,550,000. I think Holland would prefer to sign the player for less than his current salary and avoid arbitration altogether, but Athanasiou really has no ties to the Oilers and might prefer to take his chances as a UFA.
1 oct. 2020 à 21 h 49
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Hey don’t trade for him then. I don’t care. That’s my asking price. He still is good you know. If we had the cap, we would qualify, it’s only because we don’t have much cap space.


Thats just terrible asset management.
1 oct. 2020 à 21 h 50
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I think the move would be to QO AA and then flip him.


Sure but is he arbitration eligible? Because if he is and he takes his arbitration he can't be traded...
 
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