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Why would Van do an OEL trade

Créé par: VanFan10
Équipe: 2020-21 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 30 sept. 2020
Publié: 30 sept. 2020
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I’ll start it off by saying I don’t think Van should trade for OEL, they don’t need a top LD and OEL comes with a lot of risk with that 8.5 mill contract next to his name. But the rumours were going so I wanted to see what an OEL trade would look like for me and why both sides might make a deal.

OEL trade
Vancouver - OEL wont play the top LD role, that's Quin, so he becomes your second LD while bumping Edler down to the 3rd role. Your LD is now loaded with talent and experience. You have Juolevi waiting in the wing so if any injuries occur they should be able to be filled pretty easily. The only reason I think Van may be looking at this is to package Erickson into a deal (more on the Arizona write up). The big players on this side are Rathborne and the 1st. Rathborne is the Canucks top D prospect (in a farm system rated near the top of the league) but with OEL on the left side, Vancouver only has room for one of Juolevi or Rathborne. Tryamkin is in there as a low cost depth add that has a potential to play good minutes in the league, while Eriksson evens out the cap hit*. If Arizona is moving OEL they have to know that they are selling low on him. 2 years ago you would have got a haul, it ain't happening now. With that price tag and length combined with a soso year (compared to his standards) teams won't offer what they would’ve.
Van does it: Adds depth/talent to the LD/moves Erikson.

Arizona - Obviously trading OEL means rebuild. Right it has too. Arizona wants, what, to cut spending, recoup picks, and rebuild? I think this deal does that for them. They get a first overall plus a top d prospect starting his elc. That can take a shot on the 6’7 Tryamkin or leave him in Russia and ownership sheds OEL massive contracts while also saving a lot of money....like a lot. It's been noted copious times on sites but I’ll give the quick rundown, Erikson's cap hit is 6 mill, that won't change, but after his bonuses are paid he is only due 4 million over the remainder of his contract. Ownership saves 14.5 million of actual salary over the next 2 seasons (OEL 18.5 - EK 4 mill)
Ari does it: A first, a top prospect and saves ownership money.

Detroit Trade
Vancouver - Lets call it what it is … a cap dump. Vancouver loses the contracts of Ben and Beagle. Detroit gains the rights to Virtanen and Stecher. I really do think Vancouver wants to sign Virtanen, he is a young power forward that got 20 goals for them while bouncing between the third and second line with little power play time. His attitude issues or overblown, the kids 24. Stecher is another guy Vancouver wants back but having Rafferty replace him after his breakout campaign in the minors is probably the smarter choice from an economic view.

Detroit- Gains a power forward that can score and play physical on what will be a pretty fair deal (3 mill is??). A RD that can fill in second or 3rd line minutes at an affordable price. Takes on Benn and Beagle, both locker room guys that have help Vancouver grown their locker room while providing servacable time. Benn at 1 year and Beagle at 2, the contracts will be done when Detroit is ready to start making a push for playoffs.


Tanev: If I can, I sign Tanev long term (4 mill max). Leadership is key.

Van cap issues - 2021-2022 You have 30 mill to pay Hughes, Petey Demko while fitting in Oli, Raff, and lind.
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    30 sept. 2020 à 18 h 35
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    Wings legit want none of those players. Pass
    30 sept. 2020 à 18 h 35
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    Eriksson is just a mere cap dump. Rathbone has potential to be a top 4 defenseman at best, and Tryamkin will probably never see the light of day at the NHL level again, and then another first to give up... yahoo. If we can get rid of that albatross contract then we go for it. Also gotta remember that the expansion draft is coming and we’re going to have to make some key decisions on who we protect.
    30 sept. 2020 à 18 h 37
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    Wings legit want none of those players. Pass


    Virtanen and Stecher maybe, but Benn and Beagle, no. Besides, Virtanen isn’t getting traded in a bad hockey trade, needs to be good. We would also like to keep him. Also Stecher if room allows.
    30 sept. 2020 à 18 h 44
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    Yeah pretty sure any deal for OEL starts with Brock Boeser, Only piece that Detroit might have in is Jake Virtanen the rest you can keep.
    30 sept. 2020 à 18 h 44
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    Virtanen and Stecher maybe, but Benn and Beagle, no. Besides, Virtanen isn’t getting traded in a bad hockey trade, needs to be good. We would also like to keep him. Also Stecher if room allows.


    We are set on the RD and no need for another bottom 6 forward with virtanen. Wings don't take any of these guys
    30 sept. 2020 à 18 h 44
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    That is peanuts for OEL. Eriksson + 1st essentially cancel, so its OEL for Rathbone + Tryamkin. If that's all it takes to bring in a top 2 defenseman, then you take it and run.
    Sonuvabirch69 et DSZ a aimé ceci.
    30 sept. 2020 à 18 h 44
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    If they take Eriksson , Virtanen, Juolevi and a 1st you absolutely do it
    30 sept. 2020 à 18 h 56
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    ARI declines. If they trade OEL its to save cap, not take another cap dump and getting minimal value in return
    30 sept. 2020 à 19 h 9
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    Signing bonuses have already been paid out for the 20-21 season, so the financial savings over the next 2 seasons for ARZ in the description are a bit off.

    OEL has already been paid 4M by ARZ, and is still owed 14.5M over the next 2 seasons

    Eriksson has already been paid 3M by VAN, and is still owed 5M over the next 2 seasons

    This would result in 9.5M in savings for ARZ over the next 2 seasons, not accounting for Rathbone or Tryamkin. Its still significant savings, but its quite a bit lower than 14.5M
     
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