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Canucks if they get OEL Toffoli and Tanev done

Créé par: papishark
Date de création initiale: sep 30, 2020
Publié: 30 sep 2020 à 17 h 14
Équipe: 2020-21 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
Let me know if the trade is way off base. Just was trying to figure out how they could possibily fit OEL
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Gaudette, Adam22 520 545 $
Motte, Tyler1800 000 $
MacEwen, Zack1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Toffoli, Tyler76 509 377 $
Tanev, Christopher45 200 000 $
Dell, Aaron22 300 000 $
Transactions
VAN
  1. 2020 2e round pick (EDM)
DET
  1. Virtanen, Jake [Droits de RFA]
VAN
  1. Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
ARI
  1. Boeser, Brock
  2. Eriksson, Loui
Détails additionnels:
How about it? I just dont see the nucks having the futures needed to get OEL, but getting him while dumping Eriksson provides cap for arizona while paying less real dollars.
Rachats de contrats
  • Ryan Spooner: 1 033 333 $
  • Sven Baertschi: 1 766 666 $
Frais appliqués
  • Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
EDM
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
ANA
2021
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
2022
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $80 948 466 $1 700 000 $4 850 000 $551 534 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
VAN
Pearson, Tanner
3 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
VAN
Pettersson, Elias
925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
VAN
Toffoli, Tyler
6 509 377 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
VAN
Miller, J.T.
5 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
VAN
Horvat, Bo
5 500 000 $
C
UFA - 3
VAN
Sutter, Brandon
4 375 000 $
AD, C
NTC
UFA - 1
VAN
Roussel, Antoine
3 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 2
VAN
Gaudette, Adam
2 520 545 $
C
RFA - 1
VAN
Ferland, Micheal
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
VAN
Motte, Tyler
800 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
VAN
Beagle, Jay
3 000 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
VAN
MacEwen, Zack
750 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
ARI
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
8 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
VAN
Myers, Tyler
6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
VAN
Demko, Thatcher
1 050 000 $
G
RFA - 1
VAN
Hughes, Quinn
916 667 $
DG
RFA - 1
VAN
Tanev, Christopher
5 200 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
Dell, Aaron
2 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
VAN
Edler, Alexander
6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
VAN
Benn, Jordie
2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
VAN
Rathbone, Jack
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
VAN
Lind, Kole
891 666 $
AD
RFA - 1

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30 sep 2020 à 17 h 17
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Arizona is trying to shed cap, not pick up more
30 sep 2020 à 17 h 17
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I think vancouver has to add, I don't think boeser alone would be enough for OEL, not to mention you're throwing in a major cap dump as well.
30 sep 2020 à 17 h 18
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The whole idea of OEL getting traded in the first place to to cut salary cap, Boeser and Eriksson add $3 million to the payroll.
30 sep 2020 à 17 h 18
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We get worse in this scenerio. Sutter in the top 6? I shudder at the thought.

Over paying dell, Tanev and toffoli too.

Keep boeser and add a different defensemen instead
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30 sep 2020 à 17 h 19
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Quoting: The_Rocket
We get worse in this scenerio. Sutter in the top 6? I shudder at the thought.

Over paying dell, Tanev and toffoli too.

Keep boeser and add a different defensemen instead


Or don't trade for OEL
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30 sep 2020 à 17 h 21
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Quoting: CrossFireX33
Arizona is trying to shed cap, not pick up more


No they want less real dollars. The cap is not the issue
30 sep 2020 à 17 h 22
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
The whole idea of OEL getting traded in the first place to to cut salary cap, Boeser and Eriksson add $3 million to the payroll.


Quoting: CrossFireX33
Arizona is trying to shed cap, not pick up more


Actual dollars is about the same over the next 2 seasons. $18.5 million for OEL and $18.63 million for boeser and Eriksson combined. Arizona also gets the better:younger player.

Horrible trade for the Canucks and should be an easy yes for Arizona
30 sep 2020 à 17 h 22
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Quoting: The_Rocket
We get worse in this scenerio. Sutter in the top 6? I shudder at the thought.

Over paying dell, Tanev and toffoli too.

Keep boeser and add a different defensemen instead


Im not a canucks expert. Just interested in seeing how they could do some rumored moves.
30 sep 2020 à 17 h 23
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Quoting: papishark
No they want less real dollars. The cap is not the issue


Cap is the issue, they're at it and they need to cut back so they have room to improve
30 sep 2020 à 17 h 25
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Actual dollars is about the same over the next 2 seasons. $18.5 million for OEL and $18.63 million for boeser and Eriksson combined. Arizona also gets the better:younger player.

Horrible trade for the Canucks and should be an easy yes for Arizona


Cap dollars are not the same though. Arizona is already around the cap and doesn't really have room to take on Eriksson's dead cap.

Also the trade is horrible for Arizona as they're both giving up the better player and taking on a bad contract
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30 sep 2020 à 17 h 27
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Quoting: CrossFireX33
Cap is the issue, they're at it and they need to cut back so they have room to improve


You misunderstand. They have no money as an org. Covid has killed an already poor owner, and losing three picks has been terrible. They need to operate on a smaller budget and be closer to the cap floor.
30 sep 2020 à 17 h 29
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Quoting: papishark
You misunderstand. They have no money as an org. Covid has killed an already poor owner, and losing three picks has been terrible. They need to operate on a smaller budget and be closer to the cap floor.


Even with trying to go closer to the cap floor, it makes no sense for them to trade the better player and take on a bad contract. As someone stated above the actual money is the same so how exactly does it put them on a "smaller" budget?
30 sep 2020 à 17 h 32
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Quoting: CrossFireX33
Even with trying to go closer to the cap floor, it makes no sense for them to trade the better player and take on a bad contract. As someone stated above the actual money is the same so how exactly does it put them on a "smaller" budget?


Erikssons contract is over very soon. Im not saying they should do it, I was just looking to see how vancouver can make it work.
30 sep 2020 à 17 h 48
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Quoting: CrossFireX33
Cap dollars are not the same though. Arizona is already around the cap and doesn't really have room to take on Eriksson's dead cap.

Also the trade is horrible for Arizona as they're both giving up the better player and taking on a bad contract


Boeser is the better player
30 sep 2020 à 17 h 51
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Boeser is the better player


That's very debatable. Boeser can't stay healthy for a whole season, and OEL is an established 1st pairing defenseman who rarely misses a game.
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