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Créé par: TheWolfe
Équipe: 2020-21 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 29 sept. 2020
Publié: 29 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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So in this hypothetical scenario, ANA moves a contract to DET to free up cap space much like the Staal trade. Detroit then flips the player to OTT with 50% salary retention in return for an LTIR contract and swap late 1st and early 2nd round picks for the trouble.

My question is does this trade help Ottawa in:

A) Real money as Gudbranson's salary this year is $3M and Gáborík's is $3.075M but I do not know if his contract is insured.

B) Cap money as I don't think OTT is over the threshold to get LTIR relief from Gáborík's contract. Obviously retaining on Gudbranson's deal gets them further from the cap floor, but in this case they'd be trading dead money for a player who can still take the ice.

Thanks for any info and have a great day!
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    29 sept. 2020 à 13 h 35
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    Ducks tell Yzerman to f off, Guddy was really solid in ANA, easily worth 4M for a team that doesnt need to shed cap, especially at the cost of any asset let alone the 36OA pick
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    29 sept. 2020 à 13 h 38
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Ducks tell Yzerman to f off, Guddy was really solid in ANA, easily worth 4M for a team that doesnt need to shed cap, especially at the cost of any asset let alone the 36OA pick


    Not what I was asking for but thanks for your input
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    29 sept. 2020 à 13 h 40
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    Not what I was asking for but thanks for your input


    Well seeing how the whole thread hinges on that trade I would say its necessary
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    29 sept. 2020 à 13 h 42
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    Anaheim would never pay you to take on that contract. Ottawa might do a deal to swap Gaborik for somebody making similar money / cap who can actually play, but that would benefit the other team and is something they would get a return, rather than paying, for.
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    29 sept. 2020 à 13 h 43
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    My Kingdom for someone who would answer the question(s) asked.

    Also, trade thread on the move that landed him in Anaheim seems to imply he's a boat anchor https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/279698
    29 sept. 2020 à 13 h 47
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    Anaheim would never pay you to take on that contract. Ottawa might do a deal to swap Gaborik for somebody making similar money / cap who can actually play, but that would benefit the other team and is something they would get a return, rather than paying, for.


    Then insert Kris Russell if that's what you're hung up on. The original trade isn't the point of the thread. As if it wasn't completely predictable that posters on here would get hung up on the wrong thing though
    29 sept. 2020 à 13 h 49
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    Quoting: TheWolfe
    My Kingdom for someone who would answer the question(s) asked.

    Also, trade thread on the move that landed him in Anaheim seems to imply he's a boat anchor https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/279698


    That fails to account for how he played in ANA, which was very well. He is hardly an anchor, especially on a rebuilding team, Ducks could easily get something back for him, and they surely wouldnt need to pay to move him
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    29 sept. 2020 à 13 h 52
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    Quoting: TheWolfe
    My Kingdom for someone who would answer the question(s) asked.

    Also, trade thread on the move that landed him in Anaheim seems to imply he's a boat anchor https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/279698


    Answer your question with this question,

    Why does Detroit even need to be involved here?

    Gudbranson has a $4M cap hit and $3M in salary due.

    Ottawa can take it directly as they have to meet the cap floor, and LTIR Gaborik, paying him a big fat $0.

    So what advantage does Ottawa have for being involved in this?
    29 sept. 2020 à 14 h 25
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    Then insert Kris Russell if that's what you're hung up on. The original trade isn't the point of the thread. As if it wasn't completely predictable that posters on here would get hung up on the wrong thing though


    Yeah and I'm poking a hole into that idea, because Ottawa would want a return, not pay a pick, for exchanging the Gaborik contract for an active player on a poor contract.
    29 sept. 2020 à 15 h 0
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    OTT declines.

    Melnyk loves the Gaborik contract.

    Not going to pay to get rid of it
     
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